Episode 237 – Anthony Colandro and Kathy Perkins

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Personal news from each participant

Paul is on his way to Mag40.

Rob- I cleaned my 1911s after a few thousand rounds of cheap ammunition. They needed it.

I changed to aperture sights on my Mosin. I was going to go out in the desert and shoot it, but I haven’t cleaned up from my last adventure yet, so that will have to wait.

Mojo sight rear

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I traveled a few days this week so I got to listen to some podcasts that our listeners recommended.  Thank you Peter from Virginia who sent me a pro-liberty podcast.

I also donated to Dr. John Lott’s Crime Prevention Research Center.  Have you?

I have  an NRA basic pistol class this weekend, so I won’t be here on Saturday.

Rachel- Nothing much tactical lately – my neighbors have shot all the snakes around here lately, so I didn’t even get in on that. I’ve been watching some kids lately and having some fun helping them out with schoolwork. So, I spent my afternoon looking at Latin Roots.

John – As regular listeners know, I suffered a broken ankle just after Christmas. My physical therapist did his re-eval today and said I had exceeded the goals he had set earlier than expected. I think this means I can go shooting sooner than later.

Reminder that we don’t have a Saturday Show.
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News_Partner_whiteRachel’s “I Can’t” Rant!

My name is Rachel, but my friends call me Bullet. True to my nickname, I’m going to shoot straight with you tonight. This is the “I Can’t Rant.”

If I had a dollar for every time I’ve heard someone tell me they can’t be politically active, my ammo fund would be amply supplied for quite a while…or at least for a couple of good training sessions. 🙂 It goes like this: “Oh, I just LOVE what you’re doing in gun rights! You do such a great job…..I wish I could do that. But, I can’t.”

What they imply: “Some people can be activists because they just….came that way, but I didn’t come that way, therefore I’m off the hook.” The truth: political activism does come more naturally to some people, but believe me, those who have been there for a long time and made a major impact in public policy didn’t do so because they were just born that way. They WORKED.

Thomas Edison said, Genius is 1% inspiration and 99% perspiration, and I would say that ratio probably holds true for political activism, too.

So, in order to bust this ridiculous I Can’t Syndrome, I’d like to cover a few FGE’s that I’ve heard more than once. What’s an FGE? Frequently-Given Excuse.

FGE #1: I can’t because I don’t live in the area.
This is 2014 and we are blessed with modern transportation to get us across the state – or even across the country. Driving a few hours to block walk or attend a meeting may seem too far at first, but you’ll get used to the drive – trust me, there are a lot of us who do it all the time for liberty activism. And, it’s always great to get to see what’s happening in other areas of the state.

FGE #2: I can’t because I don’t have the money.
I hear this all the time and I have to laugh and shake my head. Are you kidding me? Do I look like a rich young heiress?! I could talk all night about people who don’t have any spare cash who’ve made huge inroads and shaken up the whole political world – using the tiniest of budgets that would shock you.

Don’t have a car or gas money? Car-pool with other activists. If you have time, that’s an asset you need to utilize. Get connected with others who have other resources (cars, gas money). Successful grassroots activism is about working together – each of us using our own available skills and resources, combining all of those for greatest leverage.

I’m sure there is something happening close to you also. If not, make it happen. Find a liberty-loving neighbor or friend in your area to run for precinct chair, mayor, city council, school board….or run yourself. Host neighborhood get-togethers. Be proactive and make it happen.

If it turns out you really can’t get on location where the action is, you can STILL be a successful activist. Use your time to spread the word, to research information, to study liberty, to study the law. Use modern technology (internet, social media, etc.), which shouldn’t cost you much at all.

Learn to write well. Help the cause of liberty through thoughtful and articulate articles, blog posts, emails, newspaper editorials, or even through strategic use of social media.

FGE #3: I can’t because I don’t have time.
Find someone else to be boots on the ground – you can pay their gas to get there. Again, use whatever resources you do have to help accomplish the goal. Or perhaps you can re-prioritize….could you forego golfing or watching football or going to another movie or something less important than upholding liberty and standing up for gun rights?

FGE #4: I can’t because I’ve never done it before and I’m not that kind of person.
I’m not either. And once upon a time, none of us had ever done it before. The difference between the doer and the I Can’t excuse-giver usually has to do with work ethic and commitment. Are you willing to study up and learn? Can you commit to showing up and helping? Do it. Network with more experienced activists who can show you the ropes. Step out and be brave. Not only can you help the cause of liberty, but you can gain confidence in communicating with others.

I’m a music teacher, and I hear excuses all the time – at least, I used to, until I outlawed them. I’ve taught my students, never say “I can’t.” You can say it’s hard, or you don’t want to, or you refuse. That may not be good, but at least it’s honest. But don’t say you can’t. At least 98% of the time, for my students, the task isn’t impossible. They aren’t victims of their circumstances – they just didn’t complete it because of a personal choice (whether it was conscious or unconscious). For example: they decided not to practice because they chose to do something else with their time instead.

So, back to the “I Can’t” people: here’s the one thing I DO let people say.  I won’t because I have more important things to be doing.  I hope never to put anyone down for making a personal, rational, thoughtful, intentional choice not to engage in activism because they believe their time is better spent elsewhere.

I don’t push the cause of liberty in order to have the right to tell you how you should be spending your time.

By all means, do whatever you believe will be most effective and achieve the best results. If that means doing different political activism than I do, go for it. If that means spending time with your dying mother, going to your kid’s football game, having praying meeting, getting some sleep instead of pulling all-nighters….. do what you decide you need to be doing.

Remember: “Men do less than they ought unless they do all that they can.” (Thomas Carlyle)  Do all you can and don’t sweat the rest. Make your decisions wisely and don’t let anyone else beat you up for them. But please, don’t say, “I Can’t.”
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Rob- This in from Illinois.  A Hinsdale Central High School student is challenging a suspension he said he received for wearing a T-shirt that depicts an AK-47 to school.  Senior Chris Borg said he was stopped for wearing the shirt by hall monitors. Dean of students, Kimberly Dever, offered him the chance to turn the shirt inside out, wear another shirt or be suspended for the day. Chris decided to go home. Superintendent Bruce Law said the T-shirt is a violation of the dress code because it is vulgar, inappropriate, unsafe or disruptive to the educational process (examples include the  advertising/display of alcohol, drugs, tobacco, sexual innuendo), and this T-shirt was unsafe and disruptive. Chris said that pictures of firearms can be found in our history textbooks, but you don’t see people freaking out about that.  The school’s team mascot, which is a Devil, holds a trident, which is a weapon.

Can you say double standards in Illinois?

John-  Did you say double standards in Minnesota?  The Minnesota highway patrol closed a downtown Minneapolis freeway on Tuesday morning to make a quote “high-risk” traffic stop as they detained a motorist for brandishing a gun at another driver.  The alleged offender was a special agent of the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms.  Now the state police say the matter is under investigation.

Rob- I want to compare the criminal behavior of a licensed citizen versus the criminal record of law enforcement officers.

Civilians are more law abiding than the police for sexual assault and homicide.  But for other crimes, the rate for police is very similar to the general population.  In contrast, permit holders in North Carolina commit violent crimes with a firearm 82 percent less often than the average citizen and are convicted of a DUI 85 percent less often than the general population.  Texas permit holders are much safer too.  The point being that police are as safe .. or as dangerous.. as the average citizen, and licensed carry holders are the most law abiding group.

I doubt the BATF officer will be prosecuted.  Anyone want to bet against me?

Rachel- Remember the story about the Open Carry Texas group going to Jack in the Box for a burger?  The New York times reported that employees hid in the freezer and called police.  The source of the New York Times story was.. (drum roll)  Bloomberg’s Mom’s Demand Action.   The New York Times story was then repeated by Texas law enforcement officers.  Open Carry Texas produced photographs of their group being served while the Jack in the Box employees went about their business, and the Times retracted their story.  The Times and Bloomberg’s group are made for each other.  All the lies that are fit to print meets all the lies that are fit to tell.

John Richardson– Now Jack in the box has released a corporate statement.  It is a lot like that of Starbucks. They “ask” people not to carry in their stores. They don’t ban it. Nonetheless, Shannon Watts and Everytown Moms for Illegal Mayors are claiming victory. Because they know how to play the media better than that group of open carry activists, it is perceived as a win for the gun prohibitionists. And for most people, their perception is their reality.

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Rachel- In legal news, the Second Amendment Foundation won a case in Arkansas this week when they got a permanent injunction against that state’s limitation of concealed carry permits for US citizens only. SAF argued correctly that permanent legal residents should have the same rights as citizens. Alienage is a suspect categorization and courts have applied strict scrutiny to these cases. SAF has won similar cases in Nebraska, Massachusetts, and New Mexico. The ACLU, not the most gun friendly organization, has actually won two similar cases in South Dakota and Kentucky.

John- Do you remember a few years ago when an armed citizen thwarted an armed robbery in a Spartanburg, South Carolina Waffle House restaurant?  The family of the deceased robbers say they didn’t have to die.  Newly released video shows the criminals pointing their guns at the patrons.  The armed citizen ignored the event, but did not lie on the floor as the robbers demanded.  When the armed men came back and pointed their gun at him, the citizen defended himself from a credible, immediate and lethal threat to his life.  The robber died right there.  The robber threatened other people’s lives, and he deserved to die so others might live.  The link to the security camera video is in our show notes, so see for yourself.

Gun Quotes
Rob- “Having heard all of this you may choose to look the other way but you can never again say that you did not know.” William Wilberforce 1791

Hang on everybody, we’ll be right back after this
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Seg 3 Interviews
Interview with Anthony Colandro about his run for NRA board of directors ( file Anthony Colandro election results nra2014 2.mp3)
Interview with Anthony Colandro about his NJ senate testimony (file Anthony Colandro NJ Senate and Drake 2.mp3)
Interview with Kathy Perkins of Moms with Guns Demand Action. (file Moms with guns demand action Kathy Perkins 2.mp3) Look at the bottom of her page where Kathy talks to her local school administration about armed security for schools and a Youtube video of that discussion

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Gary- An intruder was shot and killed Monday morning by an elderly man in Columbus, Ohio.  Emerson Frazier is 69 and his wife is 58. Police were called to 990 Bruckner Rd. shortly before 4 a.m. on a report of a burglary. A few days ago the alarm went off indicating an intruder was in the garage.  The intruder fled by the time the couple investigated. Early this morning, the alarm went off again and the couple went outside. Two men in the garage beat the homeowners.  Emerson Frazier was armed and shot one of the assailants. The other fled. The wounded man was taken to OhioHealth Grant Medical Center.

John- This is a DGU with no shots fired.  A rural homeowner called the Whitley County Kentucky Sheriff’s department reporting that a man had tried to force his way into the home through the front door. When that failed the intruder busted out a window and was swinging a knife.

Police found 67 year old Lonnie Paul partially in the home by way of the busted out window.  The homeowner was holding Paul at gunpoint with a shotgun in order to protect a two-year-old in the home.   Police found damage to the home’s front door, and Paul did have a knife in his possession.  Police said Paul appeared very intoxicated and that he confessed to drinking moonshine at a nearby residence.

Rachel- There are not many licensed firearms owners in Jamaica.  This license holder pulled to the side of the road with car problems just before dawn Tuesday morning.  A notorious robber called  ‘Pree Dem’ along with a young accomplice tried to rob the stranded motorist.  The license holder fired once striking  ‘Pree Dem’  in the head and killing him.  The teenage accomplice escaped.  The police described  ‘Pree Dem’ as a one man crime spree.. that is now at an end.

The single armed citizen was able to do what the Jamaican police have been trying to do for months.

John- Charlotte-Mecklenburg [NC] police say 22-year-old Darlanski Lamar Sherrill died Monday night a short time after an alleged robbery in northwest Charlotte. Police were called around 9 p.m. by a man who said he was in his yard when he was confronted by Sherrill who forced him inside and tried to rob him. The victim said Sherrill beat him with the gun. The victim also told police he was able to shoot his attacker. A short time later, a CMPD officer stopped a car driven by Don Antonio Morrison for driving erratically. His passenger was Sherrill who ran from the car and was found shortly thereafter. He was taken to Carolinas Medical Center where he died.

Mecklenburg County jail records indicate both Morrison and Sherrill had previous arrests. Morrison was charged in this case with charged with armed robbery and conspiracy to commit armed robbery.

Prosecutors will decide later if any charges will be brought against the homeowner who was attacked. Under North Carolina’s castle doctrine, the legal presumption is always in favor of a homeowner if threatened with severe bodily injury.

John- Jonathan Haith said he was asleep in his home in Henderson North Carolina.  It was around 9:45 a.m. when he heard a light knock on his backdoor. He ignored it at first. Then he heard a loud bang in the laundry room area.  Haith grabbed the AR-15 rifle he keeps under his bed. Quote “I crouched down, grabbed the firearm and was walking up the hallway.  As soon as I poked my head around the corner, I saw a tall male standing there with a gun. He shot first, I shot second.  He missed and I reckon I connected.” close quote.

The intruder was struck in the stomach. He ran out the home, and collapsed across the street in a church parking lot. Police arrested the suspect and the get-away-car driver.  The intruder is listed in critical condition.  When asked why he didn’t shoot more, the homeowner said he only needed one well placed shot.

Rob- We have the links to each of our news and defensive gun use articles at Polite Society Podcast.com if you want to share them with a friend.  Next up is out tips and tricks segment.

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Listener e-mail discussion

Gary: The Polite Society download app is outon Amazon for Android and the I-phone app is in I-tunes.  They are located by our old name, Politics and guns.  Hot links are in our show notes.

Rachel: We’re experimenting with the show all the time.  Please send us an e-mail to tell us what you like or dislike.  You can contact the show by e-mail.   Email Onair@politicsandguns.com to hear your email read on the air. If you would like to email any of the hosts directly just email their first name and then add at politics and guns dot com..  Call 605-215-1438 to hear your voice on the air!
Rob: That’s 605- 215- 1438

John: Also please check out Kathy Jackson’s Cornered Cat training classes. Her next class is the weekend of May 17 in Philadelphia. Go to Cornered Cat dot com for more classes and details.

John: Rob, do you have any new posts from your SlowFacts blog you want to mention?

Rob: John do you want to mention anything off of your blog you would like to talk about?

I do. I did a post yesterday about the Fencing Club at North Dakota State University. Thanks to a bizarre interpretation of the school’s weapons policy by the Director of University Police and Safety they cannot practice on campus. Why? Because the Director considers their blunt-tipped foils and epees to be dangerous weapons. He justifies this by saying the “safest way is simply to have no weapons, real or perceived, on campus.” Interestingly enough, the U of ND and Minnesota State Univ-Moorhead which are nearby both have fencing clubs and both allow them to practice on campus.

Rachel: Also please check out the shooters club by Bob Mayne and Ben Branam.  For $75.00 a year, $6.25 a month, you get 24/7 access to some fantastic training and audio podcasts that you can’t get anywhere else.  Bob is giving away his M&P Shield to one lucky member, there are lots of other prizes as well,  and the drawing is coming up the end of June!

John: Listen to other podcasts on thethe Crusader Podcast Network. We are also pleased to announce that we are members of the Gun Rights Network.

Rob: Join theNational Rifle Association,Second Amendment Foundation,Gun Owners of America andJews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership.  Joining two makes you a hero.  Supporting all four makes you a super hero.

John: Join your local civil rights group like theNew Jersey Second Amendment Society,Arizona Citizens Defense League,Gun Owners of California,Connecticut Citizens Defense League,Florida Carry, Georgia Carry,Georgia Gun Owners,Grass Roots North Carolina,Illinois Carry, Maryland Shall Issue,  Michigan Gun Owners , Michigan Open Carry, and  Michigan Coalition for Responsible Gun Owners.

Rachel: There are Minnesota Gun Owners Civil Rights Alliance,  Nebraska Firearms Owners Association,   Citizens for a Safer New Jersey,Open Carry Texas, Texas Firearms Freedom, Texas State Rifle Association. Tennessee Firearms Association, Virginia Citizens Defense League, Virginia Open Carry,  West Virginia Citizens Defense League and Wyoming Gun Owners.

Remember if your state or local organization isn’t read each episode email them in and they will be!   Peter from Virginia sent us a couple new organizations to add, so thank you, Peter!

Rob: For our Canadian listeners, and their supporters, join theCanadian Shooting Sports Association and theCanadian National Firearms Association. There is no Saturday show.

Gary: That wraps up another episode of the Polite Society Podcast. Until the mid-week show…
Rob: stay safe,
Rachel: be aware,
John: and we’ll see you down the road.

Rachel- This show copyright 2014 Paul Lathrop and Polite Society Podcast

Episode 233 – Jim Irvine and Julie

Intro- “An armed society is a polite society.. and this is the Polite Society Podcast where we support and report on civilian self-defense.”

John: Welcome to the polite society podcast recorded live on Wednesday, April 30th 2014. I’m John Richardson.
Rachel: I’m Rachel Malone and on tonights show we have an interview with Jim Irvine and one of his students at FASTER, that is Faculty / Administrator Safety Training & Emergency Response.
Rob: I’m Rob Morse and we have our weekly stories of defensive gun use,so climb aboard
John: strap in
Rachel: and hang on! Episode 233 of the Polite Society Podcast starts right now.
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Personal news from each participant
Rob- NRA convention. Met a few listeners and facebook friends.

Rick and Rob

Rick Ector and Rob Morse

Rob- John and I have a review of the NRA Convention, but first, a quote for Rachel.

Gun culture 2.0 was in full bloom at the NRA convention. Gun culture 1.0 was rural, centered around hunting, predominantly white, and well to do. Gun culture 2.0 is urban, motivated by self-defense, and it includes both sexes, all classes and races. The phrase “NRA country” should probably change to “NRA city or NRA suburb.”

If you’re a minority outside the gun culture, then it probably takes a year to feel welcome at the range or gun store. You’ll come with your sponsor or a sponsoring organization, but it takes a dozen chaperoned visits before you feel like you belong in the new environment.

There are a lot of interesting people at the NRA convention. I got to thank David Kopel for the Colorado court case. I got to meet the Colorado second amendment association and Laura Carno from I am created equal and also from Colorado. I also got to talk with Anthony Calandro again. That interview will come in a later episode. I met Marty and Gila Hayes, Massad Ayoob and Gail Pepin, Kathy Jackson, Rick Ector, Rob Pincus, Jim Irvine, Kyle Coplen, Alan Gottlieb and outgoing NRA president David Keene. I talked with Kenn Blanchard, Dave Cole, Bob Owens and Mark Walters.

The vendor’s hall was filled with experts from gunpowder to credit card processing. Rachel, you missed it.

There were 75 thousand members at the convention, yet I saw friends before I’d gone 100 yards into the conference center. Gun inspections found a live one round, and here is a clip from one of our listeners who was inspecting the firearms.

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John – I was able to attend two days of the NRA Annual Meeting. For me, it was more about the people than the new products. I caught up with a lot of other bloggers as well as others in the gun culture. Among the people I met was Mike Fifer, CEO of Ruger, who was at the Ruger booth meeting all who came by. I was also able to do an interview from revolversmith and trainer Grant Cunningham which we will have in a later podcast.

I was also able to meet up with a lot of the people who had attended the Lucky Gunner Blogger Shoot back in 2011. I saw Sebastian, Tam, Tom McHale, Kenn Blanchard, Jaci Janes, Mike Mollenhaur, John Cresanto, Bob Owens, and Linoge. I think a few who were there but it was great to catch up with them.

The one thing I missed was the Everytown Moms for Illegal Mayors demonstration. Given that they want us to be disarmed and not able to provide for our own security, I wondered if Shannon Watts would have an armed security team. And guess what, she did! Moreover, all of those who attended this “grassroots” event had their travel and lodging paid for with Bloomberg’s money. This contrasts with all 75,267 of us who got to the NRA Annual Meeting on our own dime and who provided for our own security.MDA insanity

Rob- My friend and fellow gun rights activist Kenn Blanchard was sitting next to two Bloomberg Moms as he flew out to Indianapolis from DC.

Rachel- personal news and ankle repair service. No dancing with the stars for a few weeks.

Rachel and Melanie

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John – Indiana is shall issue and allows carry in bars and restaurants. The number of women with Indiana concealed carry licenses has increased by 20 percent in each of the last two years.

Rob -A gunman opened fire on co-workers before taking his own life.  The Federal Express employee in Kennesaw, Georgia had been reprimanded by his supervisor for shining a laser pointer on fellow employees.  He came back with a gun.  The employee wounded six co-workers before taking his own life.  Like the other examples of public violence, the employees at the sorting facility were disarmed because the workplace is a gun free zone.FED EX gun free

I expect two things.  The murderer had mental health issues, and Fed Ex deserves a great big lawsuit for leaving  their employees defenseless.

Rachel – Oklahoma resolution 1026 will go to the voters after passing both the house and senate.  The resolution adds language to the Oklahoma constitution.  It describes that bearing arms means to carry.  It says that arms includes firearms, knives and non lethal tools like defensive sprays.  It protects ammunition and magazines as well as firearms.  It says you can’t impose special taxes on “arms”.  The citizens of Oklahoma can vote on it in November.

John – Pennsylvania gun owners and sympathetic legislators took to the capitol steps on Saturday.  Several hundred activists turned out along with dozens of legislators.  Legislators spoke in support of constitutional carry and the right to carry into an employers parking lot.  They also advocated elimination of the redundant Pennsylvania instant background check system.  Pennsylvania is a long long way from New York.

Rob -Utah Representative Chris Stewart introduced a bill to cut funding for any “paramilitary units” that work for the Bureau of Land Management, the Internal Revenue Service and other federal regulatory agencies. He cited concerns with the armed federal agents who occupied the Bundy ranch in Nevada. “There are lots of people who are really concerned when the BLM shows up with its own SWAT team.  They’re regulatory agencies. They’re not paramilitary units, and I think that concerns a lot of us.”

Rob- I looked and did not find the Stewart bill on PopVox yet.

Rob- The Peruta court decision in California opened the floodgates for concealed carry in some California counties.  4 thousand county residents applied in the two months since the court decision.   This required 14 new staff members in the Orange County Sheriff’s office to process the applications.  The wait for the required interview is currently 30 months.

Rachel-Illinois Carry reports that a lawsuit was filed in the 7th Judicial Circuit Court.  The suit was filed to secure due process for those who have been denied an Illinois Concealed Carry License by the CCL Review Board.  The board does not need to disclose why an applicant was rejected.  There is no opportunity to appeal to the CCL Review Board for a review of the denial. The suit asks the court to issue an order reversing and remanding the denials.

In Illinois you can deny a fundamental and enumerated civil right without having to show cause.  Hmm.  That hardly sounds like “the land of Lincoln.”

John- Fox news commentator Juan Williams called for disarming all americans.  He then admitted that his wife wanted a gun after she was robbed and carjacked while sitting at an Automatic Teller Machine.  We’ve long heard the clever comment that a liberal is one mugging away from being a conservative.  It sounds like Misses Williams is on her way to conversion.

Rob- Also in California, A republican senator proposed shall issue legislation.  His bill was rejected in committee along a party line vote. It is hard to say you are a democrat in California and support a woman’s right to choose self-defense.  Some sheriffs lobbied against the bill also because it takes away some of their ability to .. solicit donations.

Rachel- Gun Quotes
“I declare to you that a woman must not depend upon the protection of man, but must be taught to protect herself, and there I take my stand.” –Susan B. Anthony

John- Hang on everybody, we’ll be back after these interviews with Jim Irvine and Julie of the Ohio Faculty / Administrator Safety Training & Emergency Response program.
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Rob- Robbery is a tough line of work, but this one had an unusual retirement plan.  28 year old Reginald Melancon entered an apartment in East Oak Cliff, Dallas, Texas.  Melancon was armed and held the occupants at gunpoint in an attempted robbery.  One of the occupants pulled a gun from under a couch and shot Melancon several times.  The robber was transported to Baylor medical center where he died.  None of the residents were injured.  They are cooperating with police and have not been charged.

John- A Detroit homeowner got her concealed carry permit last year.  It paid off yesterday when an intruder used a crowbar to smash his way into her home.  The homeowner immediately called 911.  She yelled to the intruder that they were at home.  She yelled she had a gun.  When the intruder finally smashed his way into the home, she fired.  The intruder was taken to the hospital with a gunshot wound in the arm.

Rob- did I mention I saw Rick Ector (Firearms Academy of Detroit)  at the NRA convention in Indianapolis?

Rachel- A couple of purse-snatchers in Houston found their target – a woman shopping with her children — grabbed the purse, and were attempting a getaway when a Good Samaritan intervened. The on-looker pulled his weapon and held the purse snatchers at gunpoint while he waited for the police to arrive. Another witness snapped a picture, which has been circling the internet.

Rob- We have the links to each of our news and defensive gun use articles at Polite Society Podcast.com if you want to share them with a friend.  We have an advertisement from the New Jersey Second Amendment Society, and then a tips and tricks segment from Kenn Blanchard.

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Rob- We received a few listener e-mails about state legislation. I wanted to wait until the legislation passes or fails so we don’t cover the same legislation 6 times. My fault.

John: The Polite Society download app is out on Amazon for Android and the I-phone app is in I-tunes.  They are located by our old name, Politics and guns.  Hot links are in our show notes.

Rachel: We’re experimenting with the show all the time.  Please send us an e-mail to tell us what you like or dislike.  You can contact the show by e-mail.   Email Onair@politicsandguns.com to hear your email read on the air. If you would like to email any of the hosts directly just email their first name and then add at politics and guns dot com..  Call 605-215-1438 to hear your voice on the air!

John: That’s 605- 215- 1438

Rob: Roadgunner’s Mag 40 class in Conway, Arkansas at Shoot House USA is scheduled for May 15th thru 18th 2014 you can register here.

John: Also please check out Kathy Jackson’s Cornered Cat training classes. Her next class is the weekend of May 17 in Philadelphia. Go to Cornered Cat dot com for more classes and details.

John: Rob, do you have any new posts from your SlowFacts blog you want to mention?

Rob: http://slowfacts.wordpress.com/2014/04/29/you-are-the-gun-culture/

John: Also please check out the shooters club by Bob Mayne and Ben Branam.  For $75.00 a year, $6.25 a month, you get 24/7 access to some fantastic training and audio podcasts that you can’t get anywhere else.  Bob is giving away his M&P Shield to one lucky member.

Rachel: Listen to other podcasts on thethe Crusader Podcast Network.

Here is a shoutout to slamfire radio, but the polite society podcast has more facebook likes than they do.

John: Join the National Rifle Association, Second Amendment Foundation, Gun Owners of America and Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership.  Joining two makes you a hero.  Supporting all four makes you a super hero.

Rob: Join your local civil rights group like the New Jersey Second Amendment Society, Arizona Citizens Defense League, Gun Owners of California, Connecticut Citizens Defense League, Florida Carry, Georgia Carry, Georgia Gun Owners, Grass Roots North Carolina, Illinois Carry, Michigan Gun Owners , Michigan Open Carry,

Rachel: and Michigan Coalition for Responsible Gun Owners, Minnesota Gun Owners Civil Rights Alliance, Nebraska Firearms Owners Association,   Citizens for a Safer New Jersey,Open Carry Texas, Texas Firearms Freedom, Texas State Rifle Association. Tennessee Firearms Association, West Virginia Citizens Defense League and Wyoming Gun Owners.

Rob: For our Canadian listeners, and their supporters, join the Canadian Shooting Sports Association and the Canadian National Firearms Association.

John: We’re trying a slight change in our schedule. The weekend show will go live at 6:30 pm central time Saturday. That wraps up another episode of the Polite Society Podcast. Until the weekend show…
Rachel: stay safe,
John: be aware,
Rob: and we’ll see you down the road.

Rachel- This show copyright 2014 by Paul Lathrop and Polite Society Podcast.

Episode 223- Action Shooting Radio

The video above is the “raw” recording session of the show. It is us, warts and all. The audio link above that is the REAL show.

Intro- “An armed society is a polite society.. and this is the Polite Society Podcast where we support and report on civilian self-defense.”

Paul: Welcome to the polite society podcast recorded on Wednesday, the 26th of March, 2014. I’m Paul Lathrop
Rachel: I’m Rachel Malone and on tonights show we’ll talk with the guys from Action Shooting Radio
John: I’m John Richardson, and we’ll talk about self-defense news
Rob: I’m Rob Morse and we have our weekly stories of defensive gun and a tips and tricks segment with David Cole.
Rachel: so climb aboard
John: strap in
Rob: and hang on!
Paul: Episode 223 of the Polite Society Podcast starts right now.
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Seg 1
Personal news from each participant
Paul: The only thing gun related I got to do since the last time we recorded was to inform an officer of the Joplin PD that I was carrying. He told me thanks!

John: No gun news to report but I did book my room for the NRA Annual Meeting in Indianapolis which is being held April 25-27. If you are anywhere near Indy, I’d suggest trying to at least make a day trip of it. As Rob can attest, it is a great experience.

Rachel: Nothing much. Just staffed the Appleseed booth at the national AG&AG conference in Waco Thursday through Sunday, had my County convention on Saturday (and was responsible for some drama there), a bunch of activists I trained did better at making stuff happen in their conventions than I did in mine, and now I’m prepping for the Appleseed shoot I’m shoot bossing in San Antonio this weekend. Working with Texas Law Shield on some projects with TFF. Nothing to see here, just everyday work….

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“I will not comply” Rant

I personally love the “I will not comply” attitude when it comes to confiscation of firearms. It after all is the one final answer that we all can give that lets the politicians know the really very limited power that they do have. However there are a few things that I would like to bring out and explore around this. #1 If you say it, mean it, and know what it means. Unfortunately there are a lot of “mall ninjas” that hang around the firearms and Second Amendment arena. They want the toys, they want the cool stuff, but when it comes time to do the work they are no where to be found. These are the same people who when you ask, “Are you an NRA member?” give you some BS answer about not wanting to be on a list or being angry about something the NRA did in the mid 60’s to mid 80’s. You then ask if they are a SAF member and they give you a blank stare, trying to think of what the SAF is. A lot of these people are now the ones screaming out “Molon Labe! I will not comply!”

Let’s explore what will – and I did say WILL happen when you don’t comply.

1) – They will come for you. Eventually some form of law enforcement will show up, and if you are lucky you will get a knock on your door and your stuff will be confiscated and you will go to jail. If you are unlucky the door will explode open and the shock troops will come in and take the house or your place of business in a no-knock raid.

#2) If you think that the weapons charge is the only thing that they will charge you with (should you survive the arrest) then you are sorely mistaken. Should it come to the point where they are starting to confiscate weapons they are going to try to make all arrests look like they are going after the dregs of society. Have you ever been a little late filing with the IRS? Did you once have a little bit too much to drink before driving home and plead that down to a misdemeanor? Have you always returned every library book on time? They are going to dig VERY deep before the raid to make sure that they can make you look bad when they parade you in front of the media.

#3) The rest of the gun owning public won’t charge in and break you out of jail. At least at the very beginning the rest of us will be worried about ourselves and what we are are doing to keep our families safe. We will see the storm clouds brewing and be preparing for the storm. Let’s go back to the pre revolutionary war period. The shot heard ‘round the world was not the British regulars first attempt at confiscation. The Boston Massacre occurred 5 years before the battle of Lexington and Concord. I do not expect a 5 year build up, but it happened then, and I don’t expect 1 incident to bring the ire of 100 million plus gun owners to the surface immediately.

4) If you say it, and you mean it, know that many, many of us stand with you. Even with all that I have said, and all of the horribleness that will fall upon those that are victimised first know that there really are many of us in the 100 plus million gun owners that truly do stand with you. I know that Anthony Colandro meant it when he said it. There are many more whom I believe when I hear them say it. I hope that soon our voices will reach the right places and true change can happen. We ARE winning the fight for our rights, slowly and with some setbacks, but we are winning. I believe there will come a time in my lifetime when the 2nd Amendment will be my carry permit, and the 14th Amendment will be my reciprocity agreement. But for now we are threatened in many areas with laws that would make criminals of us.

In every battle there are casualties. Every soldier that volunteers to put on the uniform for our country knows that they could be injured or killed in their service. What I am asking is for every gun owner to become a soldier for our rights. It could be costly for you. You could be arrested, you could lose your reputation. You could lose a lot more. Know this before taking up the cause. If you say “I will not comply” and “MOLON LABE” then in my opinion you MUST belong to the NRA and The SAF. You MUST be registered to vote and YOU MUST VOTE! We have a chance to turn things our direction this November peaceably, but of you are not participating you are nothing but a mall ninja in the 2A world wanting the cool stuff without doing any of the work that comes with it.

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News-
James Kaleda needs our support.  Do it here, and I will ask when I meet you. John?  Rachel?  Paul?  Susan?  http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/james-kaleda-s-legal-defense-fund

Connecticut Citizens Defense League has a rally scheduled on April 5th in Hartford Connecticut  Connecticut deserves our support. http://www.ccdl.us/aboutus/events/277-gun-rights-rally

Mail in your NRA ballot too!

Paul- A California state senator who both represents San Francisco, and who enthusiastically authored gun control legislation was arrested after he asked for campaign donations in exchange for introducing an undercover FBI agent to an arms trafficker.  The allegations against State Sen. Leland Yee were outlined in an FBI affidavit in support of a criminal complaint. The affidavit accuses Yee of conspiracy to deal firearms without a license and to illegally import firearms.  Yee is also accused wire fraud for accepting tens of thousands of dollars in campaign contributions and cash payments to provide introductions, help a client get a contract and influence legislation.  Yee discussed helping the FBI agent get weapons worth $500,000 to $2.5 million, including shoulder fired automatic weapons and missiles, and took him through the entire process of getting them from a Muslim separatist group in the Philippines to the United States. http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/fbi-california-state-sen-leland-yee-arrested-23068331

Rob’s comment- Timothy Sullivan, a notoriously corrupt Tammany Hall politician,

John-  John Lott said “Our soldiers need protection on base.. and should be armed. Currently, soldiers on military bases are not allowed to carry guns. Indeed, the military specifically forbids personnel from carrying firearms for personal protection except when “a credible and specific threat against [military] personnel [exists] in that region.”

That sounds like the same “justifiable need” statement they use in California, New Jersey and Maryland.  That is why, during the Navy yard shooting, the unarmed soldiers, sailors  and marines could do nothing but cower as the shooter fired round after round. For perspective, military bases have relatively few military police since crime rates on bases are normally low.  And it was a similar story in 2009 at Fort Hood. Maj. Nidal Hasan was unchallenged as he stood on a desk and kept shooting down victim after victim in work cubicles at Fort Hood, Texas. http://triblive.com/opinion/featuredcommentary/5795440-74/bases-ducks-military#ixzz2x6Y8Gdcu

Rachel- Don’t put your faith in judges.  Washington DC resident Mark Witaschek was convicted of having unlawful ammunition for a muzzle loading rifle.. the same rifle that does not require registration in DC.  That means you have to register your rifle that doesn’t require registration.. so you can register the rifle’s ammunition.  The judge didn’t know guns from gorillas.  Judge Robert Morin sentenced Mr. Witaschek to time served, a $50 fine and required him to enroll with the Metropolitan Police Department’s firearm offenders’ registry within 48 hours.  The case will cost Witaschek hundreds of thousands of dollars. http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/mar/26/miller-exclusive-shock-verdict-mark-witaschek-guil/

John -You may now record the police in Illinois after this court ruling from the Illinois supreme court. A non-english speaker was imprisoned for over 20 months after recording a conversation with a court reporter supervisor. http://www.gunssavelife.com/?p=11655

Rob- About 150 attendees filed into Lansingburgh’s Grace Baptist Church this past Sunday to hear Pastor John Koletas’ hymn and enter a raffle to win an AR-15 rifle, the Times Union reported.

Pastor Koletas preached in front of a large American flag and had a right-to-bear-arms-text hanging on the walls of the church.  This is at least the second raffle of the month.  “We have our Constitution to protect us, but we have our liberty to protect ourselves,” Koletas said during Sunday’s service.  Churchgoers were relatively calm and quiet as they filled the pews and submitted their names for the raffle.  42-year-old Schenectady resident Ron Stafford won the rifle, valued between $800 and $1,200.

Paul -If you were so foolish as to trust an Illinois politician, please please think again.  The first batch of carry license denial letters have gone out from the Illinois State Police.  As feared, the letters  do not specify which agency filed an objection, the contents of the objection or specifically how the individual is a danger to themselves and/or public safety. In short, what we’ve got is a “may issue” licensing scheme, crafted by House Speaker Michael Madigan, where anti-gun local officials can reject license applications for any reason at all.  NRA’s lawyers are putting together their legal response. http://www.gunssavelife.com/?p=11646

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John- The National Shooting Sports Foundation does not send out alerts or “take action” notices very often. In fact, they’re rare. When they do urge action, it’s usually a significant issue.  Last week the NSSF asked gun owners to contact their senators to stop Sen. Dianne Feinstein’s attempt to force the Administration into issuing an executive order banning the importation of certain semi-auto modern sporting rifles. http://thegunwriter.blogs.heraldtribune.com/16133/senators-want-exec-order-banning-import-of-semi-auto-rifles/  (Rob has a comment)

John -This is why you lock your doors and try to retreat.  A Houston firefighter returning home from a night of St. Patrick’s Day partying was shot and killed by his next-door neighbor when he tried to enter the wrong house.  27 year old Sam Keen was asked to leave the bar so his friends put him in a cab.  The cab stopped next door, rather than in front of Keen’s house. Keen couldn’t find his way home and entered the wrong house.  http://www.cbsnews.com/news/off-duty-houston-firefighter-shot-dead-by-neighbor/

Rob – Idaho is part of a growing number of states that are seeking to nullify federal firearms laws. Congratulations to Idaho on being among the first to actually pass a nullification bill. Their bill, S1332, was signed by the governor last week and applies to future federal law. Specifically, this bill is designed to “protect Idaho law enforcement officers from being directed, through federal executive orders, agency orders, statutes, laws, rules, or regulations enacted or promulgated on or after the effective date of this act, to violate their oath of office and Idaho citizens’ rights under Section 11, Article I, of the Constitution of the State of Idaho.” Violators will be fined $1,000.

Rachel –  A couple weeks ago, we had Keith Morgan from WVCDL on the show to talk about the success of their group’s intense efforts to get SB317 through the WV legislature. SB317 is the state preemption bill for gun carry laws. After we spoke, they had to engage in another battle when there was a question about whether the governor would actually sign the bill. They’ve been working feverishly to get his signature – that finally happened yesterday. Kudos to the grassroots activists at WVCDL.

West Virginia Gov. Earl Ray Tomblin’s statement: “This evening, I signed Senate Bill 317 because I support our 2nd Amendment rights, and I also see the need for uniform and consistent gun laws throughout the state. I believe this legislation will give municipalities clarity for regulating firearms in their facilities.”

http://www.clickondetroit.com/news/detroit-homeowner-holds-teen-robber-at-gunpoint-until-police-arrive/25158758#.UzIo6C8by-g.facebook

John DGU- Near Detroit, a Jet’s Pizza delivery driver shot back after he was robbed at gunpoint at about 11 p.m. Saturday in Redford.  The victim was making a delivery to a residence where two men posed as customers.  One of the men grabbed the driver and the other man showed a handgun and demanded the victim’s money.  The legally armed delivery driver shot the suspects.  The uninjured driver left the area and called 911.  The robbers also fled in a waiting vehicle. One of the men was later found at a local hospital with multiple gunshot wounds, and another man was arrested Monday night, police reports said.  The injured suspect, Clarence Sanders, 27, of Detroit, was arraigned Monday in the hospital on a charge of armed robbery, according to Redford Police.

A warrant request is being prepared on the second suspect.

http://www.hometownlife.com/article/20140325/NEWS16/303250018/Pizza-delivery-man-shoots-back-after-robbery

 

Rachel DGU- An adult man was killed in a shooting in Bakersfield, California and another was escorted from a home and  placed in a police vehicle. The Bakersfield Police Department said that at about 4:51 a.m., Shawn Christian Ibarra, 35, armed himself with a breaker bar and kicked in the front door. He was then shot by another man in the house, which resulted in the death of Ibarra. Ibarra was on Post Release Community Supervision.. commonly called “early release” from prison.  Police believe the homeowners and Ibarra knew one another. http://www.turnto23.com/news/local-news/person-suffered-major-injuries-in-incident-in-northeast-bakersfield-police-say-032414

Paul DGU- An intruder called 911 after he was shot during a break in attempt, in Iberia Parish, Louisiana.  Charles Prince attempted to break into a balcony bedroom at a home on East Admiral Doyle Drive.  Prince woke the victim, who grabbed a handgun and fired 2 shots at Prince, hitting him once in the arm.  The homeowner called the Sheriff’s Office around 8:39 p.m. and explained that he had shot at an intruder.  Shortly afterward, the Sheriff received a 911 call from Prince who said he had been shot near the victim’s home.  Prince was transported to the Iberia Medical Center, and will be charged with Unauthorized Entry of an Inhabited Dwelling.

http://fox44.com/news/crimetracker/intruder-calls-911-after-getting-shot-during-break-attempt

Rob DGU- Michael Huston, 26, faces one count of residential burglary and one count of possession of burglary tools, both felonies, according to the Kane County Illinois Sheriff’s office. Huston broke into a house and was shot by the homeowner.  Huston was found by sheriff’s deputies a few blocks away from the burglary and taken to Delnor Community Hospital with non-life-threatening injuries.  The 43-year-old homeowner was alone at home at the time, and has a valid Illinois FOID card.

http://beaconnews.suntimes.com/news/26418166-418/intruder-shot-by-st-charles-township-homeowner-is-charged-with-burglary.html

Gun Quotes
“A fear of weapons is a sign of retarded sexual and emotional maturity.” – Sigmund Freud

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Rob DGU NSF- A group of boys, one as young as 13, tried breaking into a home Sunday on Bedford Street in Detroit. His house was robbed the day before, but this time Gregory Lindsey was home. Mister Lindsey’s son was downstairs doing homework when he heard banging on the door. Outside, five or six young boys were trying to get in. The homeowner took his semi- auto 22 and ran out the front door. “Lots of them scattered, but I caught one,” Lindsey said. For 20 minutes the teen sat on Lindsey’s porch at gunpoint, until police arrived. “He was kind of scared but it’s a lesson that needs to be learned because too many kids are going to people’s houses and getting shot now… Whoever got through that door would absolutely have been shot.”

John- We have the links to each of our news and defensive gun use articles at Polite Society Podcast.com if you want to share them with a friend.

John, mention Dave Cole for Tips and Tricks
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Listener e-mail discussion

Paul : Charlie Foxtrot sent me a message letting me know that for those that are missing the old GRRN forums that there are new forums up at www.gunnation.us all former GRRN forum participants are encouraged to check it out.

Rachel: Email from Chris
Hi Everyone,

I haven’t had a reason to write to the show before but something Rob said on episode 222 compelled me to compose this. After mentioning the James Kaleda situation again and that his defense fund was coming up short I feel it would be wise to bring one of my few moments of shear brilliance to your attention. I call it $22 for 2A.

It really started about 2 weeks ago when the phone rang while listening to another podcast that just happened to be discussing this injustice at that exact moment . While checking the caller ID I realized the number 2 and letter A are on the same key. Thats when the light bulb came on.

Here’s how it works – it’s sort of a challenge to all those keyboard commandos out there. What you do is wait until the lottery jackpot gets a little bigger before buying a ticket, maybe leave the range with some extra ammo instead of having to buy and use an entire case each time. Take that money you didn’t spend and send $22 to the James Kaleda defense fund. I’m sure Rob will put it the show notes for those that may be google challenged.

It goes without saying that James stuck his neck out for anyone, anywhere, that owns a firearm or believes in the right to self defense. He deserves our support. I’ve donated and I don’t even live in the US.

Progressive socialism – the kind that seeks to strip you of your rights and make everyone dependant on government knows no borders. It’s like a septic pile of black goo that oozes it’s way around the world. When one nation has a brain cramp on firearms laws it would not surprise me if some faceless beauracrat at the UN is immediately spreading the word to other countries – saying…”You should try this.”. The border between Canada and the USA is really just a line on the map used to collect taxes. When something happens in one country the other is likely to follow. I don’t need to mention what is going on in Connecticut, New York, and our own issues with the CZ-858/Swiss Classic Green and Canada’s largest street gang – the RCMP.

Thanks for mentioning us and our troubles north of the 49th. It reassuring to know we’re not alone.

In the words of a great Canadian comic, Red Green, “Remember I’m pullin’ for ya; were all in this together.”.

Until next time,

Chris – Typing from the Peoples Republic of Canada.

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Paul: Roadgunner’s Mag 40 class in Conway, Arkansas at Shoot House USA is scheduled for May 15th thru 18th 2014 you can register here.

Rachel: Also please check out Kathy Jackson’s Cornered Cat training classes. Her next class is at Carry On Colorado starting April 4 in Casle Rock, Colorado.

Paul: John, do you have any post on your blog you want to mention?

John: I did a post earlier this week about the Jefferson County Arkansas Sheriffs’ Department. You know how anti-gun police and sheriffs’ departments have gun buybacks? Well, they had a gun auction that netted them over $125,000! I call it the anti-anti-gun buyback. Even better was was this statement from the JCSD: “Today’s auction provided citizens an informative, secure, and safe way to buy firearms at a bargain.” Well said, JCSD, well said.

Rachel: Also please check out the shooters club by Bob Mayne and Ben Branam.  For $75.00 a year, $6.25 a month, you get 24/7 access to some fantastic training and audio podcasts that you can’t get anywhere else.  Bob is giving away his M&P Shield to one lucky member.

Paul: Listen to other podcasts on thethe Crusader Podcast Network, and check out http://www.ahib.us/  That’s Almost Heaven Internet Broadcasting out of Bayard BAY-ARD, West Virginia.  They stream the Polite Society Podcast from 7 to 9 am weekdays!

Rob: Join the National Rifle Association, Second Amendment Foundation, Gun Owners of America and Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership.  Joining two makes you a hero.  Supporting all four makes you a super hero.  Not belonging to any of them means we won’t loan you any ammunition.

John: Join your local civil rights group like the New Jersey Second Amendment Society, Arizona Citizens Defense League, Gun Owners of California, Connecticut Citizens Defense League, Florida Carry,Grass Roots North Carolina,  Georgia Carry, Georgia Gun Owners,Grass Roots North Carolina, Illinois Carry, Michigan Gun Owners , Michigan Open Carry,

Rachel: and Michigan Coalition for Responsible Gun Owners, Minnesota Gun Owners Civil Rights Alliance, Texas Firearms Freedom, Texas State Rifle Association. Tennessee Firearms Association, West Virginia Citizens Defense League and Wyoming Gun Owners.

Rob: For our Canadian listeners, and their supporters, join the Canadian Shooting Sports Association and the Canadian National Firearms Association
Paul: That wraps up another episode of the Polite Society Podcast. Until the mid-week show…
Rob: stay safe,
Rachel: be aware,
John: and we’ll see you down the road.

Episode 218 – Keith Morgan

“An armed society is a polite society.. and this is the Polite Society Podcast where we support and report on civilian self-defense.”

Paul: Welcome to the polite society podcast recorded on Saturday March 8th, 2014. I’m Paul Lathrop
Rachel: I’m Rachel Malone and on tonight’s show we’ll talk about firearms news from the wonderful citizens and gun owners of West Virginia.
John: And I’m John Richardson, we’ll talk about defensive gun use.
Rob: I’m Rob Morse and could drone on for hours about shooting another IDPA competition.
Rachel: so climb aboard
John:strap in
Rob: And hang on!
Paul: Episode 218 of the Polite Society Podcast starts right now.
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Seg 1
Personal news from each participant
John: Nothing new from me since midweek.
Rachel: Slept in today, exhausted from the political work for Texas Firearms Freedom from the past two weeks. Yesterday attended the memorial service of Terry Holcomb, Jr., son of the gun rights activist Terry Holcomb, Sr.. Missed the CATI-Austin walk today but hope to jump in next week.
Rob: How long do I have to talk about IDPA? The competition had 6 stages and took about 80 rounds. El Presedente in 9.6 seconds. (12 shots on six targets with a reload). Barrel stage with 8 targets, 14 rounds, and you had to push two plastic barrels out of the way to get to the bad guys, 16.4 seconds. The plastic barrels were your friends who forgot to run or duck. 85 degrees F when we finished. Ahhh.

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Rob: This bad news has a happy ending.  Mary Shepard and another woman were beaten as they worked in their rural Illinois church back in 2009.  Mary has concealed carry permits in several states, but was disarmed because she couldn’t carry in Illinois.  Laws change with time.  Illinois law changed because of civil-rights activists who defend the right of self-defense and then took on the Chicago political machine.  Illinois gun owners lobby day was last Wednesday.  Mary Shepard received her Illinois carry license on Tuesday.  Congratulations Mary Shepard and Illinois gun owners.  Mary is not sure if she’ll carry in church because she remains afraid to go there during the week.

John: A push for  Bloomberg-style universal background checks failed in the Oregon State Senate this week as it failed to get out of the Senate Judiciary Committee just like it failed last year.

The chairman of the Judiciary Committee, Democrat Floyd Prozanski (PRO ZAN SKI) of Eugene, isn’t giving up his push for more gun control. He has a new bill that would give judges more leeway to deny gun rights to mentally ill people in outpatient programs. It would also require that local law enforcement be notified if someone fails a NICS check while trying to purchase a firearm. However, with time running out in the legislative session, it is doubtful it would have time to be enacted.

John: Scott Zawierucha (ZA WAH ROO CHA) believes in both free speech and gun rights. He had placed a banner of his fence in Hamburg, New York saying “New York is Not SAFE – Stop Cuomo – Preserve Your Rights”. Because of his banner, he was given a summons by the town’s zoning code enforcement officer when he refused to take it down. The town says it violates their zoning ordinance which bans signs or banners on fences.

Mr Zawierucha was to appear in court on Friday. As to the banner, he said, ““I am not taking this down. I have been targeted,”  “I’ve had nothing but positive feedback from people.”

Paul – A bill is making it’s way through the South Dakota Legislature that would make it harder for those that are mentally ill to get guns. This makes me nervous because once on a list it can be exceedingly hard to get off of it.

Paul – A Kansas City Mo state legislator is having to increase security after sponsoring a bill that essentially trashes the castle doctrine and makes a requirement that you retreat before using a gun. This is a bad bill. This is also a bill that it seems has no chance of passing in gun friendly Missouri. This is no reason to make threats. I would not be surprised if the supposed threats were entirely manufactured by the other side, but lets be certain that it isn’t one of our side that is involved.

We ARE above this. we are right, and we are winning. What we don’t need is for someone to make the other side’s argument stronger.

Rachel – The West Virginia Civilian Defense League has had an exhausting couple of weeks working to get some important gun bills through their legislature before the session ended. Their main bill was SB317, the statewide preemption bill dubbed as “One state, one law” – which would prohibit cities and municipalities from making their own restrictions on handgun carry. With deadlines looming, they passed the bill and I bet you anything they’d say it was well worth the work.

From Keith Morgan, president WVCDL:
This is a fight that’s occurred with varying intensity for 21 years. But in the past three, I’ve seen this organization explode in size, scope, and legislative influence. In 2009, Jim Mullins, myself, and two members were laughed out of Charleston’s city council. Danny Jones exact statement was “I’m not interested in talking about that.” This is where we were.

For the past two weeks, I’ve not spent a single day in the capitol alone. WVCDL members have been showing up on their own time and dime, walking the halls with us in black t-shirts, talking to legislators, explaining our point, and sometimes, arguing intensely defending our positions and explaining our logic. Members have seen so many parts of the meat grinder that is our legislature. They’ve seen our legislative friends stand at our side and fight our fight. They’ve seen our enemies come to us with smiles and lies.

Over the past two years, we’ve been in the legislature. We’ve been in the streets. We’ve held dozens of public protests and meetings, and we’ve had thousands of private conversations with friends and associates. And not only have we gotten involved, but we’ve convinced others to join us in the fight for our liberty.

Our membership loves to thank me and our board. Sean Dill‘s favorite response to that is “without all of you we’re just nine people trying to get something done.” With all of you, we are a political force to be reckoned with. And the post powerful piece of that is not the nine of us, and it’s damn sure not me. It’s the thousands of conversations that have happened on facebook, at your work, on ranges, at gun counters, and with your friends and neighbors. It is an awakening that is occurring in this state, and it is YOU that rings the alarm bell raising the apathetic from their slumber.

The next time you look at your membership card or your t-shirt, allow yourself a tinge of pride. Know that your voice is heard, and know that you’ve been responsible for changing the direction of the great state of West Virginia.”

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Rob: There is a lot more to New York state than New York City.  Grace Baptist Church in Troy, New York wants to attract new parishioners to a special Sunday service later this month.  The church sent out a flyer advertising a raffle.  The flyer reads “Win a free AR-15” and “…my peace I give unto you…” John 14:27  Yes, the winning prize is a New York compliant AR-15 rifle.

One state assemblyman supported the raffle saying the rifle is a product that is legal to sell and churches have raffles all the time.  Another Troy pastor said he has been trying to get guns out of the community.  A city councilwoman said there must be a better way to get people into church.  As usual with guns and religion, most speakers talk past each other as they try to make their own point.

I’m for freedom of religion, and for raffles.. and for AR rifles.  What’s not to like?

Gun Quotes
That the said Constitution shall never be construed to authorize Congress to infringe the just liberty of the press or the rights of conscience; or to prevent the people of The United States who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms…  Samuel Adams
Hang on everybody, we’ll be right back after this.

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http://www.examiner.com/article/conn-police-refuse-to-enforce-new-gun-laws
We’ve received preliminary and unconfirmed reports that the head of the Connecticut Peace Officers’ Assn has released an open letter stating that the police will not “be party to the oppression of the people of the state by enforcing an unconstitutional law.” So far 250 LEOs have cosigned the letter.

Paul: NRA letter.

Rob: There was an attempted robbery last Wednesday in Maryland.  I know that Maryland has strict gun laws, but these two guys didn’t get the memorandum.  Two men walked into a jewelry store when one of the men pulled a handgun from his waistband.  He demanded the clerk behind the counter hand over money and put jewelry into their backpacks.  That is when the store owner in the back room grabbed his shotgun and pointed it at the robbers.  They fled in an extreme hurry and were last seen driving away in a brown car.

The good news is that the store owner saved the life of the clerk and no shots were fired.  I bet the brown car matched their brown pants.

John: DGU- There was a daytime home invasion in my neck of the woods this week. In Leicester, which is a small rural community just west of Asheville, 2 men kicked in the door of a home on Dix Creek Rd No. 1 around 11 Thursday morning. The homeowner grabbed a pistol and shot one of the intruders which caused them to flee. A half hour later a man showed up with a gunshot wound at Mission Hospital. This led investigators to arrest Stacey Eugene Lail, 40, and Chico Talbert, 37, for attempted robbery with a dangerous weapon and conspiracy to commit robbery.

Sheriff Van Duncan said the homeowner was within his rights to fire at the intruders. The homeowner was fortunately not hurt in this home invasion.

Rachel: DGU- Miami’s Little Havana is a little safer today.  A security guard at Presidente Supermarket had to take on a machete wielding mad man.  Last Wednesday, the swordsman walked into the store and announced he was going to kill everyone.  They knew he was serious when he stabbed one of the customers.  The store security guard then shot the swordsman.  The report isn’t clear if the security guard pushed the attacker outside or if the attacker pursued the security guard who ran outside.  The sword wielding attacker was shot outside the store and fell to the ground.  He is listed in critical condition.

We have the links to each of our news and defensive gun use articles at Polite Society Podcast.com if you want to share them with a friend.

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Listener e-mail discussion
Greg from Bremmerton sent in a link about a Michigan credit union that changed an anti gun policy.  http://www.m1ccu.org/BeHeard_116.html

Paul: The Polite Society download app is out on Amazon for Android and the I-phone app is in I-tunes.  They are located by our old name, Politics and guns.  Hot links are in our show notes.

Rachel: We’re experimenting with the show all the time.  Please send us an e-mail to tell us what you like or dislike.  You can contact the show by e-mail.  Paul@politics and guns.com, Rachel, Rob, Susan, John, or Onair to reach all of us.  Call 605-215-1438605-215-1438 to hear your voice on the air!

John: That’s 605- 215- 1438605- 215- 1438

John: Roadgunner’s Mag 40 class in Conway, Arkansas at Shoot House USA is scheduled for May 15th thru 18th 2014 you can register here.

Paul: Also please check out Kathy Jackson’s Cornered Cat training classes. Her next class is at Carry On Colorado starting April 4 in Casle Rock, Colorado.

Paul: Rob, do you have any new blog posts you want to mention?
Rob.  I wrote about Connecticut gun laws in an article that came out yesterday.  Politicians and judges can make bad decisions and make us less safe, or they can choose to make all of us safer.  If the judges get it wrong, then innocent gun owners could get killed by police.  At the other extreme, a wise judge could enjoin the Connecticut gun laws until the courts rule on them.  The other 700 words are at my SlowFacts blog.  John, do you have any posts you want to talk about?

Rachel: Also please check out the shooters club by Bob Mayne and Ben Branam.  For $75.00 a year, $6.25 a month, you get 24/7 access to some fantastic training and audio podcasts that you can’t get anywhere else.  Bob is giving away his M&P Shield to one lucky member.

John: Listen to other podcasts on thethe Crusader Podcast Network, and check out http://www.ahib.us/  That’s Almost Heaven Internet Broadcasting out of Bayard BAY-ARD, West Virginia.  They stream the Polite Society Podcast from 7 to 9 am weekdays!

Paul: Join the National Rifle Association, Second Amendment Foundation, Gun Owners of America and Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership.  Joining two makes you a hero.  Supporting all four makes you a super hero.  Not belonging to any of them means we won’t loan you any ammunition.

Rob: Join your local civil rights group like the New Jersey Second Amendment Society, Arizona Citizens Defense League, Gun Owners of California, Connecticut Citizens Defense League, Florida CarryGeorgia Carry, Georgia Gun Owners,Grass Roots North Carolina, Illinois Carry, Michigan Gun Owners , Michigan Open Carry,

Rachel: and Michigan Coalition for Responsible Gun Owners, Minnesota Gun Owners Civil Rights Alliance, Texas Firearms Freedom, Texas State Rifle Association. Tennessee Firearms Association and the West Virginia Citizens Defense League.

John: since the Canadians are listening, join the CSSA and the NFA

Paul: That wraps up another episode of the Polite Society Podcast. Until the mid-week show…
Rachel: stay safe,
John: be aware,
Rob: and we’ll see you down the road.

Episode 210 – Bob Owens and Anthony Colandro

Seg 1

Catch up with each participant
Paul: We’re joined by Rachel Malone.
Rachel: Getting ready for 2A lobbying at the Texas State political conventions. Help set the tone at the primary rather than the general.
Rob: I remembered where I keep my guns, and put them on so I’d remember what it feels like. That is dry practice. Sort of.
Paul: Doing the firearms twostep as I drive from state to state. Leaving Illinois and heading to Georgia.
Tom: Bought a Ruger Mk I but have not shot it yet. I’m going to leave the show. I’ll tell you when I announce my new projects. I’m excited about the Polite Society meeting in two weeks. I’ll shoot either my Springfield XD or Baby Eagle. Both are 40 cal.
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Tom: This article on police no-knock raids is from the Washington Post which included videos of a raid that took place in Des Moines, Iowa.  The homeowner was accused of credit card fraud.  He was sitting in the bathroom when his door was broken in.  He drew his firearm, heard the police announce themselves, re-holstered his weapon and sat back down to wait for the police.
The homeowner says he didn’t hear the police announcement until after one officer had already tried to kick in the door. Had that officer been successful in entering the first time, there’s a good chance that the homeowner, the police officer, or both would be dead. The police department would then have argued that the homeowner should have known that the people crashing into his home were law enforcement. Excuse me?!

The police can not simultaneously argue that these violent entries are necessary to take suspects by surprise and also claim the surprised suspects should not react violently because they already know they are being raided police rather than criminals. That line of pure propaganda is exactly what the police are selling. When citizens are injured, that is the propaganda that most prosecutors and judges are buying.

Des Moines police said they “do not have a written policy governing how search warrants are executed.” The Washington Post said that’s inexcusable.

Rachel -One Texas grand jury isn’t buying the no-knock excuses any more.  The grand jury in Burleson County refused to issue an indictment for murder after a drug dealer shot and killed a deputy during a no-knock raid.  The defendant, Henry Goedrich Magee was indicted on drug charges.  Magee said he thought the deputy was burglarizing their home and that Magee and his pregnant girlfriend were being robbed.

As a purely practical matter, it appears that Magee was growing several marijuana plants in his backyard.  That evidence wasn’t going to fit down the toilet while the police are knocking on the front door and presenting a warrant.

Rob – I guess I could mail in this news article.  The US senate took a baby step towards freedom when they required the US post office to allow firearms in their parking lots.  There has never been a federal law preventing guns in post offices, but the US post office has established its own regulations denying you arms.. and they have more lawyers than we do.

Paul:  But not more lawyers than the US senate.

Paul: -This is a case of putting your hands and feet where your heart guides you. Guns for Everyone was founded in 2010 as a joke.. until lawmakers in the Colorado legislature decided to write so many anti-gun laws.  Then, Guns for Everyone started offering free firearms training.  Their free training includes free kids handgun safety classes, and some of the classes are taught BY youngsters.  “What better way for kids to learn than with the help of other kids. These classes are also supervised by an NRA Certified Instructor.”  The class outline is pretty serious.

  • Handgun Rules and Etiquette
  • Handgun Safety
  • Fundamentals of Shooting
  • The kids get to shoot simulated guns

Their website is Concealed Carry for Free.com

Rachel: – Another piece of good news from Colorado, a bill received bi-partisan approval for CCW permit renewals in the county where you live.  Before it was the county where the permit was issued, so licensees could have quite a drive if they moved across the state.

Tom: -Two good Samaritans in Florida were trying to do a kid a favor by offering him a ride.  They quickly found themselves the victims of an attempted armed robbery or carjacking.

From the back seat of the car, Adrian Mangual-Ayala put a gun to their heads and threatened to kill the driver and passenger if they didn’t give him money.  The driver stopped the car and gave Ayala his money.  That is when the passenger jumped in the backseat and disarmed Manguel-Ayala, beating him so badly that his eye swelled shut.  The two good samaritans then held the gunman until the police arrived.  Authorities arrested 16 year old Mangual-Ayala on two counts of robbery with a firearm, unlawful possession of a firearm as well as violation of probation.

It isn’t a DGU, but I wanted to share a story with a happy ending.  Next time, carry concealed.

Rob: – Here is another Florida story with a happy ending, and it IS gun related.  Less than a week after Florida Carry filed its lawsuit, Eastern Florida State College revised its regulations to allow firearms in private vehicles on campus.  Florida Carry won a similar suit last December against the University of North Florida.  The reason these schools settled so fast is that Florida state law grants financial penalties against public entities and individuals who violate the rights of gun and defensive weapon owners.  Thank you, Florida Legislature and keep it up Florida Carry.

Paul: – Dennis Baxley is a Republican state representative in Florida.  He introduced a bill to protect children from being expelled due to educators “zero tolerance” of anything shaped like a gun in schools.  The representative calls it the “Pop-Tart Bill” after students were suspended for eating a corner of a poptart.

The bill would prohibit schools from taking disciplinary action for a range of possible infringements including vocalizing gun sounds, using hands to simulate a weapon, possessing a toy firearm made of legos, possessing a toy firearm that is smaller than two inches in length, and possessing a food item that resembles a firearm in shape.  The bill has received the support of the Florida House education Subcommittee which includes several educators and at least one Democrat.

Rachel: -South Carolina Governor Nikki Haley said she is eager to sign a bill working its way through the legislature to allow licensed gun owners to carry in restaurants that serve alcohol, though they can not consume while carrying.  Restraunt owners have the right to prohibit firearms in their businesses, but Governor Haley said she’d allow guns in if she owned a bar.

I knew there was a reason I like South Carolina.  South Carolina listeners should make a few phone calls and get that bill on the Governor’s desk.

Tom: Darn it, now I have to choose between South Carolina and Florida.  Nicki Goser help get the laws changed in Tennessee.

Rob: Did you know that the records of Florida license holders are NOT open to the public?  Plus-one for Florida.

Rachel: What about Texas?

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Tom: Then how about New Mexico where a State Senate panel rejected a bill restricting firearms in the New Mexico Capitol. The Rules Committee voted 4-2 Wednesday against a measure that would have banned firearms, except by law enforcement officers, in the Senate chambers, galleries and committee rooms.

Rob: – Things aren’t so rosy in California.  U.S. District Judge Kimberly J. Mueller, an Obama appointed judge, will review California’s microstamping law as early as next week.  The state law demands civilian firearms must leave a unique mark on each shell casing.  Manufacturers say they can’t guarantee the microstamping, but the California Department of Justice and Attorney General Kamala Harris say the solution is to prohibit sales of all non-complying guns.  They state claims they didn’t outlaw the guns, they simply made requirements so no guns can be sold in the state.

There is stupid, and then there is California Stupid.. and I live there.

Paul: -This politician is telling the truth.  John Tkazyik, the mayor of Poughkeepsie, N.Y., said he quit the group Mayors Against Illegal Guns after he realized its objective was outright confiscation of firearms from law-abiding citizens.  “Under the guise of helping mayors facing a crime and drug epidemic, MAIG intends to promote confiscation of guns from law-abiding citizens,” Tkazyik wrote in a Wednesday column in the Poughkeepsie Journal.  Mayor Tkazyik is one of about 50 mayors who left Illegal Mayors Against Guns.

Rachel: -This came item came from listener David Cole.  It is hard enough to become a commercial pilot.  It is doubly difficult to earn the right to fly armed for the defense of the aircraft, passengers and crew.  The Armed Pilots Program is one of the most rigorous, stringent and exclusive programs to put firearms in the hands of civilians, but that is the model Joe Kalil selected when he wanted to bring armed self-defense to public and private schools.  The project is called P.O.S.T. for Protect Our Students and Teachers, and it is a layered defense against an active murderer on school grounds.    Experts on public violence have moved far beyond the model of huddle and pray, but some school administrators remain stuck in the past.  The basics of the POST program include; only accept volunteers from school staff, pass initial interviews, background checks, drug tests, a polygraph test, and applicants must possess a state license to carry concealed.  That is before the several day training course begins.

Here is the good part.  This a non-political grass roots program that says we should remove the school board members who want to leave our children defenseless.  The program is initially directed at Kentucky schools, but could grow across the country.  Interested listeners should check out postky.org

Rob: I spoke with Joe Kalil.  Liability is not really an issue.

Tom: Gun Quotes
“Though defensive violence will always be ‘a sad necessity’ in the eyes of men of principle, it would be still more unfortunate if wrongdoers should dominate just men.” written 1700 years ago by the theologian Saint Augustine (Au-GUS-tin) of Hippo

Rob: We have two interviews coming up.  The first is Bob Owens talking about the terrible politicization of Connecticut gun laws.  The second is Anthony Colandro running for the NRA board of directors.

Paul: Hang on everybody, we’ll be right back after this.
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Segment 3  Interview with Bob Owens who writes at Bearing Arms.com
Interview with Anthony Colandro who owns Gun For Hire Range in Woodland Park, New Jersey  and is running for the NRA board of directors.

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Segment 4 DGUs

Rob: DGU1- by an off duty officer.  Robert Lundy was at the wrong place at the wrong time.  He was at the local ford dealership in Taylor county Florida so his police car could be serviced.  A fifteen year employee of the dealership came in and started shooting people with a shotgun.  (Joe Biden, take note.)  Officer Lundy shot the madman within a minute and prevented a massacre.   Thank goodness there was a good man with a gun in the right place at the right time.

Rachel: DGU2- A DeKalb County, Georgia, woman came home early Tuesday and found two teenagers in her home.  Better late than never, she grabbed her gun.  One teen ran out the back door and the other tackled her to the ground. The woman fired several shots, but no one was injured.  , according to police. A neighbor’s security camera captured the teens, and the woman was able to lead police to the suspects.  DeKalb County police arrested a 16-year-old and a 17-year-old, whose names were not released.  “They were skipping school today,” Capt. Stephen Fore said.

Paul: You can share the show with a friend by sending them the link to our download page. You can also share any of our news or DGUs. We have the links to each article online at Polite Society Podcast.com
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Tips and tricks segment from Kathy Jackson talking about cold weather carry.

Listener e-mail discussion
Paul: From Marc in Ohio
Guys,
I am a father of four girls with a baby on the way. I just listened to the Bold Departure Podcast episode with you guys as guests. Thank you guys for having a very frank discussion. Kids require parenting not legislation.
I’m going to expose my method of firearm instruction for my kids. My kids’ ages are 13, 11, 8 and 5. All of them shoot to some degree. The youngest doesn’t even aim but she enjoys some trigger time. They all shoot .22 pistols and rifles. My 13 year old started shooting the .40 caliber pistol last year. They all shoot the AR. I realize our vice president’s opinion of the AR is it’s difficult to shoot but my 5 year old does just fine. All my girls have their own safety glasses and hearing protection. None of them have ever been forced to shoot. When I announce I’m headed out to shoot Who ever speaks up gets to come. Sometimes all of them come sometimes only one will come. Occasionally they ask me to take them shooting.
Play guns have no rules at our house. They are toys and are used as such. Real guns have rules. My rule is the girls can handle any gun they want any time they want. The catch is mom or dad must make it safe first. Once in awhile one of the kids gets the itch to hold one of my EDC guns. They ask to hold it. I make it safe and hand it to them. I watch their muzzle discipline with amazement. They all understand the potential energy of firearms. They respect them and enjoy the shooting.
I was asked recently by my youngest to look at my Glock 22. I removed the mag and locked the slide back. I handed it to her. My 5 year old pointed the pistol at the ground, turned her body and raised the muzzle towards the field in back of the house. She makes some shooting noises. She will point the muzzle back at the floor and turn to hand it back to me. It’s amazing to see.
My kids see myself and their mother every day. There is no curiosity to be satisfied. They can touch any weapon they want any time it’s made safe. Just to make sure we don’t misjudge, all firearms are on our person or in the safe.

I have a great story to share. A police officer friend tells me about a ground hog in his back yard. He decided he needed to shoot this ground hog. He retrieved his service rifle from his cruiser. When he walked through his home carrying his M-16 his 10 year old daughter gasp in fear. She assumed terrible things were going to happen with daddy carrying that scary gun. In contrast, when I walk through my house carrying an AR I usually hear cheers and chants of, “Can I Come”. My kids know it’s time to go shooting!

Keep representing gun owners in a positive light.
Marc in Ohio.

Paul: The Polite Society download app is out on Amazon for Android and the I-phone app is in I-tunes.  They are located by our old name, Politcs and guns.  Hot links are in our show notes.

Rachel: You can contact the show by e-mail.  Paul@politics and guns.com, Sticks, Rob, Susan, or Onair to reach all of us.  Call 605-215-1438 to hear your voice on the air!

Tom: That’s 605- 215- 1438 and we sprinkled salt on it so the answering machine has more traction.

Tom: Roadgunner’s Mag 40 class in Conway, Arkansas at Shoot House USA is scheduled for May 15th thru 18th 2014 you can register here.

Rob: Also please check out Kathy Jackson’s Cornered Cat training. Her next class is at Nighthawk Custom Training Academy in early March.

Paul: Also please check out the shooters club by Bob Mayne and Ben Branam.  For $75.00 a year you get 24/7 access to some fantastic training and audio podcasts that you can’t get anywhere else.

Rachel: Listen to other podcasts on the Gun Rights Radio Network, the Crusader Podcast Network, and check out http://www.ahib.us/  That’s Almost Heaven Internet Broadcasting out of Bayard BAY-ARD, West Virginia.  They stream the Polite Society Podcast from 7 to 9 am weekdays!

Tom: Join the National Rifle Association, Second Amendment Foundation, Gun Owners of America and Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership.  Joining two makes you a hero.  Supporting all four makes you a super hero.  Not belonging to any of them means we won’t loan you any ammunition.

Rob: Join your local civil rights group like the New Jersey Second Amendment Society, Arizona Citizens Defense League,Colorado Second Amendment Association, Connecticut Citizens Defense League, Florida Carry, Georgia Carry, Georgia Gun Owners, Illinois Carry, Michigan Gun Owners , Michigan Open Carry,

Paul: and Michigan Coalition for Responsible Gun Owners, Minnesota Gun Owners Civil Rights Alliance, Texas Firearms Freedom,Texas State Rifle Association. Tennessee Firearms Association and the West Virginia Citizens Defense League.

Paul, That wraps up another episode of the Polite Society Podcast. Until the mid-week show…
Rob, stay safe,
Tom, be aware,
Rachel: and we’ll see you down the road.
Outro and disclaimer

News, the 10 – 22, and When to Call 911

On this show, Sticks and Ken Kowalski talk about the venerable 10-22, Kathy Jackson’s Crnered Cat segment talks about when you should call 911, and Paul has a rant about an Arizona Trucking law and what happened at a recent accident scene.

News Links:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/06/28/colorado-gun-maker-to-give-away-soon-to-be-illegal-ammo-magazines/

http://www.nydailynews.com/new-york/police-arrest-home-invader-brazen-beating-new-jersey-mom-caught-nanny-cam-article-1.1385563

White house study finds armed people are safer! – http://lewrockwell.com/slavo/slavo161.html

Charges dropped for 14 year old who wore NRA t-shirt to school – http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/06/28/Charges-Dismissed-Against-8th-Grader-Who-Wore-NRA-T-Shirt

 

There is a New Orleans north of the border as well! – http://news.nationalpost.com/2013/06/28/high-river-residents-furious-after-rcmp-seize-substantial-number-of-firearms-from-evacuated-homes/

Please check out www.roadgunner.net to get the new Itunes feed for his show!

Episode 96a – Mark Vanderberg and Laura Carno

On this Episode Mark Vanderberg chats with Toby and Paul about the recently completed NRA show among other things, and Laura Carno returns to talk about a recall effort in Colorado and a lawsuit brought by several sheriffs against the new gun laws. Brian has an Imbecile of the Week, and Ken Kowalski of the Rimfire Podcast guest hosts.

Episode 90a – Rob Morse and talking NRA

Due to events over the past few days Paul goes on a bit of a rant about the NRA. Rob Morse is interviewed topics include what can really be done to prevent gun violence.

Show link:

Conn. Senator Wants FOX To Drop NRA 500

Guest Link:

Slow Facts

Episode 77 – Bob Mayne and Glen Tate

News from Congress on gun bans, and gun bans working through legislatures in Illinois, New Jersey and New York. Bob Mayne and Glen Tate are guests.

299 Days

Handgun World Podcast

Today’s Survival

 

I must apologize for not getting the website links updated in a timely manner. I was without my laptop for most of this week. ~ Paul