Episode 378 – Things get Weerd

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1- Open and Personal News Segment: 

2- News Segment 1

3- Interview Segment 1: Weerd Beard

4- DGU Segment:

5- Email and Show Close:


1- Introduction

“An armed society is a polite society.. and this is the Polite Society Podcast where we support and report on civilian self-defense.”

Paul: Welcome to the polite society podcast sponsored by the Firearms Policy Coalition recorded on Friday, June 3rd , 2016.  I’m Paul Lathrop.

John: I’m John Richardson and we will be talking about Bloomberg and Hillary.

Rachel: I’m Rachel Malone about Bloomberg trying to buy a Referendum in Nevada.

Gary: I’m Gary Daugherty and in one of our DGU’s a concealed carry holder helped stop a mass shooting in Houston. So climb aboard.

Rachel: strap in

John : and hang on!

Paul:  episode 378 of the Polite Society Podcast starts right now.

Show intro music.


Personal news from each participant (when you are done with your segment please ask the next person what has been up with them)


John – I did two important things today. I voted in a primary/election and Barb and I signed the paperwork that created our NFA trust this afternoon. It was a “canned” trust which I hope is OK. I wish our old friend John Pierce was licensed to practice law in NC so I could have gone to him. His cost is reasonable and he knows his stuff. It is a shame that we have to go to this trouble to buy a product that enhances our hearing safety, is not abused criminally, and is the same as a muffler for a car or lawn mower. I just hope Congress actually acts on the Hearing Protection Act of 2016 and removes suppressors from the NFA.


Rachel- Lots of music work, finishing up the semester by accompanying end-of-the-year studio recitals.

  • Politics: listened to the livestream of my county Republican Party executive committee.  Lessons:
    • Livestreaming is a game-changer. Use it.
    • Robert Morrow was duly elected, without election fraud, like it or not. (Most don’t.)
    • His election could be a positive thing – authority getting redistributed, more people more involved, the county in general paying more attention
  • Guns: taught a friend to shoot. She is the victim of a home invasion a few months ago and has determined to never again be defenseless. Ordered an Accuracy 1st level for my distance rifle. Because an indiscernible 3-degree cant at 1,000 yards throws a .308 175gr SMK off 24.7”.






Promo about upcoming training classes here.



2- News 1


Everytown Endorses Hillary


I know our listeners will be shocked (shocked, I say!) to find out that Bloomberg’s minions at Everytown and Moms Demand Action just endorsed Hillary Clinton for president. According to the endorsement, they plan to support her in both the remaining primaries and the general election. The timing of this comes as Bernie Sanders may have taken a lead in the California primary which will be next week. Everytown spokesperson Erika Soto Lamb insisted that their endorsement was the organization and not Mr. Bloomberg’s.


Chris W. Cox, chairman of the NRA’s Political Victory Fund, said “gun control groups are endorsing Hillary Clinton because they believe that she will work to eliminate individual gun ownership in this country.”

“The Second Amendment is on the ballot this November. Hillary Clinton does not believe that law-abiding Americans have the right to use a firearm to protect themselves in their homes,” he said.

John – Hillary Clinton makes no bones about the fact that she is our enemy. I don’t love Donald Trump nor particularly like him. However, the enemy of my enemy is my friend. I will take Donald Trump at his word that he will protect the Second Amendment.

Rachel- I see what you’re saying, John. And I certainly don’t want Hillary to be president. But I just will not vote for Trump. I don’t trust him, and I don’t want to give any support to the idea that it’s ok for the Republican party to nominate him.

Weer’d: All the antis are hitching their wagon to the Clinton Campaign simply because it’s ALL they have after Martin O’Malley dropped out of the race.


John I live in a purple state. I just don’t see that I have a choice.

Paul – Gary Johnson

Speaking of Bloomberg

Since we are speaking of Bloomberg, it has come out today that his gun control campaign in Nevada has just purchased every bit of available TV advertising in the Las Vegas market for both the months of September and October. This cuts out everyone who might want to publicize an opposing message.

Bloomberg and his minions, Nevadans for Background Checks, are pushing a referendum that would mandate universal background checks for any transfer of a firearm. It is important to point out that “transfer” in Bloomberg terms is not selling someone a firearm and transferring ownership. Rather, it is the physical transfer of a firearm. That means if you and a friend are at the range and he or she wants to try out your new pistol, legally they would have to go through a background check before you could hand it to them. And then for them to hand it back to you – your own firearm – you would have to go through a background check. The goal of this referendum is not to prevent criminals from getting firearms. The goal is to kill the gun culture so that in time the Second Amendment becomes meaningless.

Gary –

John – I think NSSF should make it known to every casino and hotel owner that the SHOT Show will never, ever be in Las Vegas again if this referendum passes. If any of our listeners will be visiting Vegas between now and November you need to tell every maid, every Blackjack dealer, every Uber or cab driver that you and your money won’t be coming back if it passes.


Paul – SHOT Show is the 4th or 5th largest trade show that Vegas has.


Rachel- I want us to steal a page from Bloomberg’s book. I want us to think BIG. I want us to go for that crazy long shot that everyone thinks is impossible. I want us to go as far or FARTHER in our direction than they go in their direction. Instead of just trying to put up a defense, take the offense, dream big, and make it happen.


Weer’d: These are also the people who always talk about how great the gun laws are in Australia and the UK….both places that got registration that was ONLY used for confiscation.


Murder-Suicide at UCLA


This Wednesday the UCLA campus went into full lockdown for many hours due to an “active shooter” on campus. The active shooter turns out to be a disgruntled former graduate student from India who killed his mechanical engineering dissertation advisor Prof. William Klug. The killer had accused the professor of stealing some computer code. After shooting the professor, the murderer then took his own life in a murder-suicide. A note left at the scene asked police to check on his cat in Minnesota. This note led police to search his home in Minnesota where they found a “kill list” and the murderer’s dead wife who had been shot two days earlier. Prof. Klug was on the kill list as was another UCLA professor who escaped harm.


It goes without saying that UCLA is a gun-free zone. Earlier this year, the California legislature passed a bill that prevented carry permit holders – that rarest of rare things in California – from carrying on campus. California also has very tough gun control laws including a 10-day waiting period. None of that prevented the killer from going on campus and killing his dissertation advisor. Of course that did not stop anti-gun legislators and celebrities from saying more needed to be done.


Gun Quotes

“If you teach your kids how to shoot, when to shoot, what to shoot, and where to shoot, freedom will easily be maintained.” – Erin Canales


Hang on everybody, we’ll be back with our guest Weer’d Beard




3- Interview 1-





5- DGUs

Rachel – Concealed Carrier Battles Potential Mass-Murder In Houston
Insanity came suddenly to a suburban Houston area strip mall one Sunday morning. Without warning, a man started spraying rounds from an AR-15. Shots and screams pierced the morning; glass shattered and fell. A car crashed into a boat trailer, others raced away with blown-out windows and shot-up sheetmetal. A gas pump exploded into searing flames. Victims lay screaming where they fell. In that chaos, several citizens found the strength to challenge the madness; strangers helped the wounded to safety, a Boy Scout was prepared and saved a life while literally under the gun, and a licensed concealed carrier drew his weapon, and advanced on the madman.  

Bryon Wilson, 30, abandoned the safety of his neighborhood clothing store to fight back, running toward the madman while firing his carry weapon. Only, the murderer had a rifle, and Wilson had only a concealable pistol. The man connected with his return fire, and Wilson staggered away, heavily wounded. The murderer then returned to his evil task, finally dying under a hail of police bullets. However, Wilson did successfully distract the madman, taking him out of his carefully rehearsed fantasies, confusing and disorientating him, making him think, slowing him down; all of which granted precious seconds to those in danger. Many likely owe him their lives. As a result of the actions of Wilson, and all the other heroes, only one victim died, instead of the massive body count the madman obviously hoped for.

Wilson’s heroics came at a terrible personal cost; he was struck three times, falling with two broken legs and a shattered shoulder. Although surviving his ordeal, the family man faces years of hospitalization and rehabilitation. He may not be able to walk for two years. A friend wondered about “all the bills piling up, no way to work, no money coming in, medical bills…” The friend is setting up a GoFundMe account to help with this hero’s rehabilitation. We urge our listeners to say thank you to this Brother of the Gun, concealed carrier and sheepdog. And just maybe help him in his hour of need, as he helped all those strangers that Houston morning.


Gary – Talk about getting inside his OODA loop, making him think, reevaluate, hesitate? And how desirable it would have been to have another CCW carrier respond – or for one of the business owners to have a pistol, a shotgun, or…. another rifle.  

John – Something to worry about – Wilson was first identified as an accomplice – only later cleared as a Good Samaritan.  In these chaotic situations, Blue on Blue is a very real concern.

John – Would-Be Carjacker Shot in Downtown St. Louis
This one hits a little too close to home for our colleague CF: just outside the St Louis Cardinal’s stadium, two young men were shot in a carjacking. The truck owner received a grazing wound to the leg, the carjacker is in unstable and critical condition.  

This latest instance of downtown violence occurred when the 20-year-old carjacker walked up the street to a man waiting in his truck for his girlfriend to finish work at a popular eatery. The criminal pulled a gun and ordered the driver out of the truck.  The man complied, but drew his own gun as the thief entered the vehicle. Shots were exchanged, and the truck lurched down the street until it slammed into a tree.

The truck owner’s night continued to get worse as the carjacker’s accomplices roared up and shot at the victim. The well-armed victim was able to return fire and hit their vehicle. The same two drove their buddy to the hospital. One was arrested there, the other criminal, described a young woman, eluded the police in a foot pursuit. St Louis Police are continuing to investigate the crime.  

A few things stand out in this situation: The criminals were working as a team, with the confederates in an overwatch position, ready to take out a resisting victim. The crime was especially bold, coming just days after city officials had promised yet again to increase security downtown after a young mother was carjacked, killed, and her young child thrown from the car. That crime occurred about a block away from this carjacking. Finally comes the demonstrated need for a capable weapon; a limited capacity revolver or pistol would have made resistance to the second group less effective, perhaps at the cost of the victim’s life.  

Stay armed, stay aware, stay capable — it is an increasingly violent world.

Rachel- As dangerous as I know it is to sit in a parked car, I am still guilty of doing just that. This story is a reminder to do that as little as possible. And, when I need to sit and wait for someone, I resolve to be vigilant in watching my surroundings.

John –
Gary – Taking a Long Knife to A Gunfight

Two men took a machete to a home invasion. Unfortunately, (for them), they were also bringing a knife to a gunfight.


A Fayetteville, North Carolina homeowner confronted the pair of invaders and their machete. Fortunately, he was also armed, and armed with a better weapon. He shot the machete-wielder in the abdomen – and both criminals ran to escape in a tan vehicle.  

The uninjured homeowner called the police and provided descriptions of the suspects and their vehicle. Armed with that significant clue, the cops found the car in a Clinton hospital parking lot, and arrested both men.  The homeowner’s name and address were withheld for his safety.


Paul – Man Shot And Killed Within Neighbor’s House

A Indianapolis, Indiana couple will not face charges for killing their neighbor. The couple were startled awake to find their neighbor James Neal inside their home. There was a struggle for a shotgun, and the man and woman both fired several times at Neal. The home invader died at the scene.  

The deceased invader was said to suffer from seizures and could been disorientated when he entered the couple’s home. However, his actions make the foregoing speculations moot. Per the investigators, the couple shot James to defend their lives, each other, and the child in their home.


Rachel – Assault Threats of Death and Rape and Murder

Four violent, armed thugs invaded a woman’s home, demanded money and threatened to kidnap, rape and kill. They punctuated their threats with the gunfire that may have proved their undoing.

When the 39-year-old woman homeowner answered her door in the Georgian afternoon, the thugs burst in, put a gun to her head, and ordered her not to look up. When her teenage daughter entered the room, the mother looked at her, and a thug put a bullet near her head. “You think I’m [expletive] kidding?!” he yelled.


“They started making sexual remarks about raping her, it was terrible,” her mother told the news. “He hit her in the head with the gun and put it in her mouth and told her to stop crying or he was going to blow her head off.” At one point, the men threatened to take the teen with them and rape her.


As they left, one thug shot at the daughter, missing her face by mere inches. In their  rush to get away, the thugs encountered a neighbor who had heard all the gunshots and armed himself. One of the criminals shot at the neighbor and he shot back. He expended all 15 rounds in his magazine, hitting one gunman. The gang made good their escape, but they had to dump the wounded thief at a local hospital, where he was arrested. The others were arrested at the address associated with car license number provided by witnesses. The heroic neighbor was hit twice. Fortunately his wounds were not life-threatening.

Without the firearm, the gang could have been free to continue to rob, and perhaps indulge in rape and murder. But the brave neighbor  – and his firearm – helped end their spree.  





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6- E-mail, blog notes, and show close


Only one email this week.




There is a statue in Austin, TX that I believe captures the heart of the reason for our 2nd amendment.  Rachel could give more detail, but the statue depicts Angelina Eberly warning the town that her government, led by Sam Houston, was attempting to overstep its bounds.  I saw this statue for the first time last October and fell in love with it.  For something that does not move, there is a lot of action depicted.


And as another salute to Texas history, there is the story of the Gonzales cannon (I got the shirt.).  That story is similar to the story of the Battle of Thermopylae.


I really enjoyed expanding my knowledge of the history of Texas during my visit.


And for Rachel, “Keep Austin weird!”.




John, tell us what’s new at your blog No Lawyers -only guns and money


John- While I posted a few things, there is nothing that I’d consider “major” or that important to talk about. I’d just urge listeners to go to onlygunsandmoney DOT blogspot DOT com on a regular basis to see what I’ve posted.


We would like to thank Charlie Foxtrot for writing up show notes for us. Even though you don’t hear him on the air he is certainly part of what you do hear. Look at his blog at not one more gun law dot blogspot dot com


Paul: That wraps up another episode of the Polite Society Podcast.  I’d like to thank Weerd Beard for joining us today.  So for Charlie Foxtrot, Gary, John, Rob, Susan, and Rachel,


(Paul, stop talking now)


Rachel: Until the next time…

Gary: stay safe,

Paul: be aware,

John: and we’ll see you down the road.


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