Episode 373 Laura Carno


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1- Open and Personal News Segment

2- News Segment

3- Interview Segment 1:  Laura Carno

4- Interview Segment 2: Craig DeLuz

5- DGU Segment:

6- Email and Show Close:


1- Introduction

“An armed society is a polite society.. and this is the Polite Society Podcast where we support and report on civilian self-defense.”

Paul: Welcome to the polite society podcast sponsored by the Firearms Policy Coalition recorded on Thursday, April 14th 2016, I’m Paul Lathrop

John: I’m John Richardson and on tonight’s show we talk with Craig DeLuz of the Firearms Policy Coalition about proposed California firearms legislation

Jenna: I’m Jenna Meek and we will also talk with Laura Carno about her new book.

Gary: I’m Gary Daugherty and we will talk about the Northern Marianas Islands passing a one thousand dollar per handgun tax .. so climb aboard

Susan: strap in

John : and hang on!

Paul:  episode 373 of the Polite Society Podcast starts right now.

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Personal news from each participant (when you are done with your segment please ask the next person what has been up with them)


JENNA – I have been teaching (when the weather allows, spring in CO is crazy!), writing, I finally got to take a class with John and Vicki Farnam a couple of weeks ago.


John – As I mentioned on the last podcast, I was going to spend the weekend at the Mother Earth News Fair in Asheville. I did and I had a good time. It attracted everyone from hippies in dreadlocks to vets who are into prepping and everyone in between. The only thing that could have made it better is if they had one building devoted to guns! I learned how to tan leather with and without the fur, how to make ginger beer, and, best of all, how to set up a small still.


In gun news, I had an order of AR lowers arrive one of which is going to be made into an AR pistol. It won’t exactly be a SBR but it will be as close as I can come without spending $200 and waiting 6 months! I do have a question for our listeners – has anyone ever used one of the pre-made NFA trusts that many of the dealer peddle for $120 or so? I’m debating going that route before July and the changes coming down the road.


Gary – What training do you have coming up?







Promo about upcoming training classes here.

Live promo – Concealment Solutions deal of the day.


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2- News

Northern Marianas passes a strong anti gun law.

Last week we reported that the Marianas Islands had had their ban on handguns struck down. So they did what any freedom hating government would do, they imposed a $1000 per handgun tax. Although that was only the beginning. The new law that was passed unanimously in the Commonwealth Senate and signed by the Governor also creates a ban on all carry outside the home and creates a licensing system. Also banned are centerfire rifle cartridges larger than .223 and shotgun shells larger than .410.


Not to worry, the SAF is on the case. Allan Gottlieb told Guns.com that “Our SAF legal team is working on the next step. It seems that the anti-gun rights politicians never learn”


John – I fail to see how a tax of $1000 on a $500 handgun is constitutional. The power to tax is the power to destroy.


Colorado trying to roll back magazine restrictions


In a move almost the polar opposite of what we just reported from the Pacific Islands, the state of Colorado’s Senate passed a bill that would eliminate the magazine capacity restriction that became law recently. The bill now moves to the Colorado House. NRA-ILA is requesting that if you live in the Rocky Mountain state that you get in touch with your representative and urge them to support Senate bill 113.




After backing out of the presidential race Chris Christie actually does something almost right!


Guns.com reported on Monday that New Jersey Governor Chris Christie issued new guidelines for obtaining a handun license.  One of the several reforms listed in the story was the adding of “Serious threats” to the list of qualifying circumstances in the states may issue permitting process. Up until now the process should have been referred to as may, but almost definitely will not issue.


It is too early to tell whether this will actually make a difference in the state, but time certainly will tell. We would like to remind our Garden State listeners that as with any executive order these can be changed on a whim by the next Governor and so it is crucial to stay involved and keep working to elect pro gun politicians.


John – Christie seems to be getting better even though his Presidential ambitions have been shot down.


Virginia Governor Terry Mcauliffe is asking to get bitch slapped.


Bob Owens over at bearingarms.com reports that Virginia Governor Terry Mcauliffe vetoed legislation that would have allowed people who are victims of domestic violence and have a restraining order to get an instant carry permit.


Now victims of domestic violence must wait the far too long 45 days for the Virginia system to grind its way through the process of issuing a permit before they can defend themselves outside the home.


John – The only good thing I can say for Virginians is that they can open carry legally without a permit.


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3- Interview 1-  Laura Carno


Tonight’s first interview is with Laura Carno. Laura has been a guest here many times and even helped co-host so most of our listeners should know her. Laura wrote a new book that just released. The title of the book is “Government Ruins Nearly Everything: Reclaiming Social Issues from Uncivil Servants “ Laura, thanks for coming back on the show.


First please tell us a little bit about your book. What are the “social issues” you cover?


Reducing gun violence is of interest to our listeners, tell us more about your approach to that.


You have been getting great reviews on Amazon, I would like to touch on just a few of them.


I made a big mistake when I bought this book…I ONLY BOUGHT TWO COPIES! Now I need to go back and buy some more to send to my friends.

What’s not to like about Laura Carno’s “Government Ruins Nearly Everything.” I liked the Parents Know Best section; I liked the Free Market section; I liked the Strong Marriages section. Actually, I liked the entire book.

Laura mentioned that Millennials want their freedoms. But I’ve observed Millennials want “free stuff.” Which is it? Someone has to pay for it. Laura gets it!

“Government Ruins Nearly Everything” is a must read for anyone who really cares


Second review


Clear thinking, chapter after chapter. Laura talks the right way about issues that usually get folks riled up. And when folks are riled up, they don’t listen to each other. She looks for real answers to some of the thorniest problems we face.

Laura frames issues in a way that’s bigger than a single topic, and gives real ideas for solutions that most people (politicians, especially!) are overlooking.

Practical, thought-provoking, optimistic, and surprisingly compassionate


It looks like you are getting fantastic feedback, I hope that the book’s sales are going as well as the reviews.


How long did the book take to write?


Are there more books on your horizon?


Where can people buy your book?




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4- Interview 2-


5- DGUs


Home Invader Shot and Killed, Accomplices Charged With His Murder
An attempted invasion of a Columbus, Ohio condo resulted in the death of one robber and murder charges for his two accomplices. Nathaniel Easley, 24, was shot in the resident’s condo, staggered out into the complex and collapsed. Khomary Rand, 23, and Deshawn Lovejoy, 26, left their comrade on the pavement, but were arrested driving very erratically to elude capture, according to police. They have been charged with murder due to their participation in the crime that resulted in Easely’s death. During the altercation, a dog was also shot. The condo resident has not been charged nor identified for his or her protection.  

As an apparent result of his choices, Easley left behind his daughter; Nari “Elle, his parents and two siblings.


Elderly Man Shoots Invader
An elderly Missouri man had his lunch interrupted by three home invaders prepared for violence. Fortunately, he was dining with a firearm.


The man saw someone pull up very close to the house in a truck. The trio immediately started breaking down the front door. The startled resident ran back to the table where he had left his handgun. During that time, the three thugs broke open the door which was only held partially closed by a safety chain. The elderly man fired what he described as a warning shot and saw the pickup truck speed away.

In those confused moments, the homeowner arrived to find a man lying on his front porch. Police arrived a short time later and pronounce the man dead from a gunshot wound to the head. The deceased was found wearing gloves with an aluminum baseball bat nearby. The elderly man did not know the attacker, but the homeowner may know of him or his associates. Police are searching for the other two, and are fairly certain they know who they are.

By the evidence, it now seems that the elderly man prevented a robbery and perhaps much worse. Even though his shot was described as a warning shot, police believe he fired in fear for his life. At this time, the house guest is not expected to be charged; but the investigation is ongoing.

Warning shots are seldom a good idea. However, it seems this time the warning shot delivered a very pointed message, one that was justified by the facts.  


Paul –


Crime Spree Thwarted By Store Employee With a Gun
A criminal’s crime spree was interrupted by a store employee and her gun.  At least five Dayton, Ohio business had been robbed in short order by the same thug. However, things changed when he tried to rob the Sundeck Tanning Salon. Saying “I don’t want any trouble, just give me all the money,” the thief got only a gun to the face as the employee said I don’t think you’re going to get that money today.


The business owner said his employee was a little shaken, but it wasn’t enough to stop her from protecting their business. “She was really upset, but she’s not going to give up our money. This is our season. We’re a small family business. This is what we live off of and she’s not going to give that up.”

We applaud the woman who protected her herself and business with a gun, all without having to fire a shot. You listening out there, Shannon?  


Man Turns Gun on Home Invader

A 51-year-old Rochester man got home in time to defend his 16-year-old daughter from three invaders. However, in the gun-controlled paradise of New York State, he had to obtain the gun he used from one of the thugs.  

Around 10:30 at night, three masked and armed robbers broke into the home and began assaulting the young girl. The homeowner came home to this desperate situation. During the altercation, he was chased into a backyard and shot in the leg. The owner continued to fight and was able to wrestle a gun away from one of the thugs. That gun was used to incapacitate a suspect.

Police on patrol nearby heard the gunshot and were able to take the teenaged suspect into custody. The thug was hospitalized with facial injuries. The homeowner was hospitalized with non-life threatening injuries to his lower extremities. The victim’s daughter was also hospitalized for facial injuries. The two remaining invaders remain on the loose.


We congratulate the man for defending his daughter and his life. However, we wish he had the legal ability to carry and employ his own gun, rather than having to get one from the criminal. A criminal, who by the way, had no problem illegally possessing a gun in anti-gun New York.


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6- E-mail, blog notes, and show close


Before we get to the email discussion, I want to ask a few things. First PLEASE keep emailing, calling, and texting! The email address is onair@ad7.8f3.myftpupload.com. The Phone number to text or call to leave a voicemail is 605-215-1438. We really do need more feedback.


We got a voice mail from Mel in the midwest




Paul: Rob, do you have any new posts from your SlowFacts blog you want to mention?


John – I don’t have any particular blog posts this week I want to point out. I’d just ask the listeners to go to onlygunsandmoney DOT blogspot DOT com to find my blog.


We would like to thank Charlie Foxtrot for writing up show notes for us. Even though you don’t hear him on the air he is certainly part of what you do hear. Look at his blog at not one more gun law dot blogspot dot com


Paul: That wraps up another episode of the Polite Society Podcast.  So for Charlie Foxtrot, Gary, Rob, John, Rachel and Susan,

(Paul, stop talking now.  NOW, damnit!)




Jenna: Until the next time…

Gary: stay safe,

Susan: be aware,

Johnl: and we’ll see you down the road.


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