Episode 271 – How much is a suppressor in China?

“An armed society is a polite society.. and this is the Polite Society Podcast where we support and report on civilian self-defense.”
Paul: Welcome to the polite society podcast recorded live on Saturday, the 20th of September, 2014. I’m Paul Lathrop
Rachel: I’m Rachel Malone and on tonights show we’ll talk about homemade weapons showing up in China
John: I’m John Richardson, and we’ll talk about Baylor university approving concealed carry on campus
Gary: I’m Gary Harpster and we will also have a discussion about water storage
Rachel: so climb aboard
John: strap in
Paul: and hang on! Episode 271 of the Polite Society Podcast starts right now.
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Seg 1- Personal news from each participant

Paul- Didn’t get the show that was supposed to go out on Wednesday out on time. It released just this morning. Went shopping for a new handgun for my beautiful blushing bride Susan. She decided on the Glock 23. The store that we support with our business didn’t have one in stock so we ordered it and it should be in late this week, just about the time that GRPC starts.

Got a new Concealment Solutions holster. LOVE the Sidewinder Pro. I never thought that I would like any holster better than the Black Mamba CE however Jason outdid himself with this one. Just like the Black Mamba, this is a hybrid holster, the Sidewinder pro is a outside the waistband hybrid holster. That means that it is both leather and kydex. It also has a thumb break retention strap. I haven’t totally retired the black mamba, however I wore the new sidewinder all this week while I was on the road and I absolutely am in love with this holster. The only negative that I can find is that I have to get used to adjusting my belt to a tighter hole, however that does have the added benefit of making it look like I lost a little bit of weight!

I also have a tiny bit of a rant, if you have an NRA, SAF, GOA, S&W, Glock or other sticker on your back window of your car or pickup PLEASE drive courteously. I don’t have one on my pickup for theft deterrent reasons, but if you have one and you are driving like an idiot you are giving us all a bad name.

John – I couldn’t agree more with Paul on this. I only have my NRA Life Member sticker on my car and you have to look to see it. As for gun stuff, I had planned to take my new rifle to the range and sight it in. I didn’t get to the range but I did take the rifle apart to learn more about it. Found out it assembled on a FN Mauser action from a 1951 Belgian Navy rifle with a barrel made in Pennsylvania. The gunsmith who crafted this rifle also glass bedded the stock.

Rachel- I haven’t been doing much with politics and guns the past few days, beyond working on raising a responsible citizen to join the coming generation of polite society. I really enjoyed his team’s football game Friday – not only because we won soundly, but also because of the great sportsmanship Jordan’s team showed. They played with passion and heart, but every time after they routed the other team during a play, as soon as it was over, they were there giving their opponents a helping hand. That speaks well of becoming a great citizen.

Gary – new products available to order – including ammo.

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Seg 2- News


Paul-The state of Hawaii denied firearms permits to legal permanent residents because they were not yet citizens.  That practice was appealed and found unconstitutional.  A federal district court ruled that the practice was invalid under the Equal Protection Clause and the Second Amendment.  If the state has any concern justifying the regulation of firearms, the exclusion of legal non-citizens is not narrowly tailored to meet that concern.  The case said is was permissible to deny firearms ownership to illegal residents.  The case is sure to be appealed.

Rachel- Legal private firearms ownership is virtually non-existent in the People’s Republic of China. However, for 2,200 Yuan (about $320 US) you can get a black market Type 64 pistol with silencer and 5 cartridges. It should go without saying that Chinese gun laws are very strict. However, this story from the China Daily goes to show that even in the most authoritarian of countries, gun control doesn’t work.

John – The Student Senate at Baylor University gets it. On Thursday, they voted to approve a resolution that would allow students and others who have concealed handgun permits to carry their guns on the Waco campus. Unsurprisingly, school spokeswoman Lori Fogleman tells the Waco Tribune-Herald that Baylor officials believe allowing the guns would create security challenges. Texas law allows college students with concealed carry licenses to have guns in a locked compartment in their car on campus. Any changes would have to be approved by the University’s Board of Regents.

Paul – The gun control group North Carolinians Against Gun Violence is so desperate for publicity that they held a vigil on Friday evening for a convicted felon killed in a shootout with another man. Nigel Scarlett had been previously convicted of Assault with a Deadly Weapon and was known to be in the drug trade. According to the lawyer for the man who shot Scarlett, the man had no criminal record and shot Scarlett in self-defense after being threatened by him. He suspected Scarlett was behind the home invasion that left his cousin and her boyfriend dead.

Comment – They picked a real winner there.

Comment – Sure would have been nice if they cared as much about honest folks threatened by the likes of Scarlett and others.

Rachel – The billboards supporting Shaneen Allen that Frank Fiamingo told you about here are starting to attract the attention of the New Jersey mainstream media. My9NJ in their Chasing New Jersey segment brought attention to these billboards and had an interview with both Frank and NJ State Sen. Jeff Van Drew. Van Drew, a Democrat, is sponsoring a bill that would give judges the same discretion that Atlantic County Prosecutor Jim McClain has. If you watch the whole episode, you can tell the news staff is sympathetic to Shaneen Allen.

John – There will be a benefit fish fry to support Shaneen Allen and her sons. The event is being held in Philadelphia on October 11th and 12. As the sponsors say, this event is to help support a single mom fighting to keep from being separated from her children over a honest mistake. If you are in the area, we’d urge you to attend.

Paul – The Republican Leader of the NJ Assembly Jon Bramnick has weighed in on the Shaneen Allen case saying, “”This is a case, where a woman with no criminal record, should not go to jail.” He acknowledges that she made a serious mistake but thinks the charge should have been something like disorderly conduct. He noted that Ms. Allen would have had no problems in at least 30 other states. Bramnick also endorsed legislation nicknamed Shaneen’s Law that would lessen the penalties faced by legal concealed carry permit holders who get ensnared in NJ’s laws. The proposed law would mandate pre-trial intervention instead of a minimum of 3 ½ years in prison.

Rachel – Thursday, Reps. Diane Black (R-TN-06) and Ted Poe (R-TX-02) introduced the FIREARM (Freedom From Intrusive Regulatory Enforcement of Arbitrary Registration Mandates) Act – legislation to prohibit the federal government from requiring race or ethnicity to be disclosed in connection with the purchase of a firearm. The ATF changed Form 4473 in 2012 to require the disclosure of race and ethnicity citing a 20-year old OMB mandate. As Rep. Black notes, failure of the purchasers to check the appropriate box can result in the ATF shutting down a dealer’s business for incomplete forms.

Gun Quotes
John – A system of licensing and registration is the perfect device to deny gun ownership to the bourgeoisie.(bo͝orZHwäˈzē) (middle class) — VLADIMIR ILYICH LENIN

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Segment 4 DGUs

John -A U.S. Army veteran who never fired a shot while serving in Afghanistan found himself exchanging gunfire earlier this week.  27 year old Shaun Cooper and his family were at home.  A teenager knocked on the door, and then began shooting into the house.  Cooper grabbed his own firearm.  The teen saw Cooper through a window, and fired at him.  Cooper shot back and dropped the teenager.  The teenager is in stable condition at a local hospital.  Las Vegas Police believe the teen was attacking the family after arguing with Cooper’s 14 year old brother.

Rachel -A man posted on Craigslist that he had a rifle for sale.  Three men came to look at it.  They examined the rifle then turned it around and pointed it at the seller.  They then tried to rob him of his valuables.  The seller pulled his handgun and told the men to lie on the ground because he knew his handgun was loaded and he knew the rifle he’d handed them wasn’t.  The seller then grabbed his rifle and ran away to call police.  The three men were arrested and booked into jail in Hanover County, North Carolina.

Paul – Our listeners understand that the right to keep and bear arms is about more than just firearms. It includes knives and swords and other implements of defense such as spears. Jimmy Wilson is an active participant in SCA – the Society for Creative Anachronism – and he keeps a short spear by his bed. And it was a short spear that he used to protect himself against a home invader in Wichita Falls, Texas on Wednesday night. The home invader, Thomas McGowan, was lucky to escape with just cuts to his hands and shoulder. As Mr. Wilson said, “I am a Christian man and I don’t want to take life, however I want to make sure that he (McGowan) understands that his life was mine to take. I let him have it.” Police found McGowan a few blocks away from Wilson’s house. After taking him to the hospital to be treated for his wounds, McGowan was charged with criminal trespass, DUI, and evading police with an automobile.

John – A man attempting to rob a Wisconsin truck driver who was working a job in San Antonio Thursday night got more than he bargained for after the trucker pulled out his firearm and used it to protect himself. Joshua McCann was in San Antonio to pick up a motorcycle and then deliver it to Michigan. The robber approached McCann saying he was a cop. When McCann asked to see his badge, the robber said he was going to steal McCann’s truck. That’s when McCann pulled his firearm and shot the robber three times killing him. Police confirmed McCann’s story with bystanders and employees of the motorcycle shop.

We have the links to each of our news and defensive gun use articles at Polite Society Podcast.com if you want to share them with a friend.

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Paul: That wraps up another episode of the Polite Society Podcast.  Co-hosts, will you be with us next time?  I’m looking forward to it.  Until the next time…
Gary: stay safe,
Rachel: be aware,
John: and we’ll see you down the road.