“An armed society is a polite society.. and this is the Polite Society Podcast where we support and report on civilian self-defense.”
Paul: Welcome to the polite society podcast recorded live on Saturday, September 6th, 2014. I’m Paul Lathrop
Rachel: I’m Rachel Malone and on tonights show we will talk with Michael Cargill who is running for office in Austin, Texas
John: I’m John Richardson, and we have Brandon Combs back with us to talk about new firearms laws.
Rob: I’m Rob Morse and we have our weekly gun news and self- defense stories
Rachel: so climb aboard
John: strap in
Rob: and hang on!
Paul: Episode 267 of the Polite Society Podcast starts right now.
Show intro music.
Seg 1- Personal news from each participant
Paul- The truck died.. again! This time it is the AC unit. Dry fire practice. I have a sidewinder pro holster on the way.
Rob- I’ve been busy. Business cards, ammo, dry practice, steel shoot. Wrote an article. John, one of our listeners sent me a link to open source software that records the shot pattern from your SIRT pistol. http://phrack.github.io/ShootOFF/ Listener John in Texas, please take note. Oh, I edited Wednesday’s show on my day off.
John – Not much in the way of gun stuff to report since Wednesday. I did order a Kydex holster to go with the SIRT pistol. It’s hard to practice your draw without a holster unless, of course, you want to end up like Plaxico Burris.
Rob- you don’t have an M&P?
Rachel- I taught my brother how to take apart, clean, and reassemble my AR and XD. That’s the beauty of homeschooling. 🙂 It gave me some great ideas for a tips and tricks segment on children and firearms…stay tuned for that in the near future. I’ve also been making plans for a Battle Road defensive handgun class with some friends of mine. You know you have great friends when that’s their idea of hanging out and celebrating everyone being in town together.
John-Joseph Palumbo, co-owner of the Albion Gun Shop, released information today that New York State Police officers from the Narcotics Enforcement Unit demanded the shop’s release of all customers who purchased New York SAFE Act compliant rifles under threat of a warrantless SWAT Team Raid. Since the passing of the New York Secure Ammunition and Firearms Enforcement (S.A.F.E.) Act, the New York State Troopers Narcotics Enforcement Unit has been delegated to enforce the S.A.F.E. Act and to handle all matters pertaining to the S.A.F.E. Act. This unit visited Mr. Palumbo on several occasions, disrupting his business, to see that Mr. Palumbo is compliant with the S.A.F.E. act provisions for licensed gun shops owners. “The New York State Police told me that my guns were NY S.A.F.E. compliant. The chief of the Medina police told me my rifles were NY S.A.F.E. compliant and in fact purchased one of the guns from my shop.” James D. Tresmond, attorney for the Albion Gun Shop, raised the possibility of entrapment. “My client disclosed to me that he would not have sold these rifles to the general public had they not been approved by the New York Division of State Police”
Rachel Comment- That makes sense that Governor Cuomo got the drug cops to enforce the gun laws. The drug cops are usually the most corrupt unit on the police force.
Rob- Could dirty cops tie up an honest store in court and drive them out of business.
Paul -We brought you a number of pro-self-defense news articles we found in the mainstream press. Perhaps this next news item explains why the press has changed their attitude. In San Francisco, a TV reporter was robbed at gunpoint while he was sitting inside his Television Station news van. The thieves took his wallet, computers and television equipment. All this happened in “gun free” San Francisco.
Rob Comment- Go ahead, mister news announcer. Tell me the police will protect me. I dare you.
Rachel- A firearms manufacturer in Oregon was suddenly blocked from processing credit card transactions. The company that Calico Light Weapons Systems used to process the transactions said the company was involved in illegal activities. The manufacturer denied this, and the bank would not specify what activities were illegal. The manufacturer believes it is the latest victim of the Obama administration’s “Operation Choke Point.” Operation Choke Point lets the Departments of Justice and Treasury block banks from servicing selected businesses. Calico Systems recovered by partnering with McMillan Merchant Solutions. McMillan is based in Arizona and was started by members of a firearm manufacturing company. McMillan simply decided that it won’t be cowed by the government’s strong-arm tactics.
Paul Comment- This sounds like more lies, denials and delays from the obama administration.
John Comment- And the Obama administration didn’t run guns to Mexico either.. just ask the mainstream media.
Rob- comments- Calico sells springs, screws and small gun parts. They were accused of selling firearms over the internet.
Rob- The Point Marion Police Department in Fayette County closed its doors after settling lawsuits against two police officers. The city manager of this Pennsylvania town said “We had to lay off all the officers due to the fact that we do not have police liability insurance.” The insurance carrier dropped the department after paying two settlements against the department’s only two police officers. One of the officers was fired from two other nearby Police Departments. This time the officer was sued was by the ACLU for arresting a citizen who was recording the officer on his cell phone. The ACLU won. Insurance premiums went up ten fold. The city can’t afford the insurance and closed their police department. The city is now patrolled by state police.
John- The Second Amendment Foundation and the NRA’s Civil Rights Legal Defense Fund are teaming up to sue the Commonwealth of Northern Marianas Islands in US District Court over their ban on the possession and use of handguns. The Commonwealth of Northern Marianas Islands is a US territory. As SAF head Alan Gottlieb notes, ““The Second Amendment does not just apply to the continental United States and Hawaii. It also applies to territories under U.S. jurisdiction. The issue is a fundamental civil right, not only to possess a handgun, but also to use firearms for self-defense purposes, which is currently banned in the Northern Marianas.” The Northern Marianas are located north and east of the Philippines in the Pacific Ocean and includes the island of Saipan.
Rachel Comment – It is good to see the NRA and SAF working together on this issue.
Rob- comment- Guam issues concealed carry permits.
Paul- Speaking of the Second Amendment Foundation.. The organization Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership will officially become part of SAF. JPFO operations will move from Wisconsin to Washington. The new board of directors at JPFO has not been made public.
Rachel- School started, and some things changed this fall in Idaho. That is because Idaho became the seventh state to allow concealed carry on campus. Oregon, Utah, Colorado, Kansas, Mississippi and Wisconsin also allow students to conceal weapons on campus. Campus carry in Idaho requires an enhanced permit, and some 3000 permits have already been issued. Some of the permits were issued to Idaho college students.
Rob- Comment- I’m know these laws drive some of the college administrators crazy.
John- Comment- The college administrators are crazy to oppose campus carry. I’ve had soldiers and veterans as students in college courses. We’d be crazy to disarm them. These experienced adults have seen more stress and demonstrated more self-control than ANY university administrator.
Rachel- Comment- Soldiers and veterans absolutely have the right to carry on campus…along with the rest of us.
Rob- Most of us are familiar with the gun safety education for elementary school children called the Eddie Eagle program. It is once again part of the curriculum in some Jacksonville, Florida schools. The school allows parents to opt out of the gun safety program. The only reason this made the news is that a parent complained. He said he would have opted his child out of the program if he’d known it was developed by the NRA. The program encourages children to stop when they see a gun, not to touch it, to leave the area and tell an adult right away. School officials said the district hopes utilizing the program will help prevent tragedies that start by children playing with guns.
Paul Comment- All publicity is good publicity.. as long as they spell the name right.
Rachel Comment- again, the beauty of homeschooling: you can throw in gun safety or even shooting classes without going through any government red tape or dealing with school regulations..
John- Billionaire Mayor Michael Bloomberg knows how to pick his allies. We criticize the mayor for his organization Mayors Against Illegal Guns. That is because so many of his mayors have been arrested for corruption. Once you’ll take money from Michael Bloomberg, you’ll take money from anybody. Now we see a similar thing happen to the Bloomberg group, Moms Demand Action for Gun Sense in America. Erika Quinn, the Oklahoma leader of Demanding Moms, has a restraining order against her. The restraining order bars Ms Quinn from being within 300 yards of her children and prohibits her from having firearms. That is why it is hard for Erika Quinn to explain a picture of her holding a shotgun on her twitter page.
Rachel- comment- Gun control means training regularly. Gun sense means taking a real class in armed self-defense. THAT is how real moms keep their children safe.
Rob- comment Does Twitter have throw-back thursday?
Paul- Does it feel like there are one set for rules for government officials and another set of rules for ordinary citizens? A judge from the Fourth District Court of Appeals said that judges in the district may enter courthouses armed and may carry concealed. The rest of us have to be fingerprinted. The rest of us have to undergo a background check. The rest of us have to demonstrate training and proficiency. The rest of us are disarmed in most government buildings.
Rachel Comment- Not if you’re a judge.
Rob Comment- I read where two Califonia judges were disciplined for having sex in their chambers.
John Comment- I wonder if the judge can enter a post office while armed?
Rachel- Shaneen Allen was arrested for bringing a gun into New Jersey. Also in New Jersey, Bonnie Oliver Allamong was prosecuted for bringing her firearm to her sisters house to protect her sister from domestic abuse. Both are victims of New Jersey prosecutors. Now lawyers have asked to look at the prosecution record to see if there is a consistent pattern of abusive prosecution. Atlantic County prosecutor Jim McClain did not hand over the documents as requested by defense attorneys.
John Comment- That says something when attorneys question the impartiality of the prosecution.
Paul Comment- We have a legal system, not a justice system.
Rob- Many gun owners across the country are subject to background checks as they buy firearms and get licenses to carry concealed. The background check is the holy grail of gun-safety for gun prohibitionists. Recent news revealed that a terrorists fighting for ISIS passed a background check and worked as a baggage handler at the Minneapolis-St. Paul International Airport. The MInneapolis Metropolitan Airports Commission handles security clearances and background checks for the airport. The terrorist was recently killed while fighting in Syria.
Rachel Comment- well that makes me feel safer.
John Comment- at least he passed his background check.
John – Gun Quotes
I do not carry a pistol so I can impose my will on someone else. I carry a pistol so someone else cannot impose their will on me! – Lynn Givens of Rangemaster.
Hang on everybody, we’ll be back after this
Segment 3 Interviews
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Win, loss, tie?
What do we do now?
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Paying taxes and complaining won’t defend your right of self-defense.
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Segment 4 DGUs
John- The Ottumwa [IA] Police Department was dispatched to a Burglary in Progress at approximately 3:21 p.m., Tuesday. The home’s owner called police after he found a man in his basement. The homeowner went downstairs looking for his cat. He found a partially disrobed intruder instead. The homeowner called police and grabbed his handgun. 42 year old Billy Ray Snow was arrested at the scene and charged with trespassing.
Rob Comment- and intoxication, I’ll bet.
Paul- A mob of teens in Milwaukee tried to rob a group of tavern employees as they were walking to their cars after closing time Monday night. Fortunately, one of the employees was legally carrying concealed and fought back. One of the attackers, a 15 y.o. with gang ties and a long criminal history including armed robbery, was killed. Police took the rest of the teen attackers into custody. Milwaukee Police Lt. Mark Stanmeyer said the group was believed to have been responsible for dozens of robberies over the last three days. No charges have been brought against the man who defended the group though he was originally taken into police custody.
Rob- that must be why Chicago politicians want to disarm everyone who goes into a bar.
Rachel- Barbara Haley called 911 after 24-year-old Jody Kudlacz (CUD lez) allegedly broke into her Omaha, Nebraska home around 3 a.m. She was awakened by noises and found the door to her attached garage open. She grabbed her handgun, a .45 Sig Sauer P220, and followed her pitbull to her home office where they found Kudlacz hiding in a closet. He tried to get out of the situation by saying Mrs. Haley knew him. She responded, “ I said I don’t know you, shut up and quit talking to me.” She noted to the media that she wanted to control the situation. Kudlacz had been in the process of stacking stolen clothes, gift cards, and jewelry before he was found. He was charged with burglary.
Paul Comment – Interestingly, the location is just 4 blocks from the University of Nebraska – Omaha campus. And yet authorities want to keep students and staff at risk in a gun-free zone.
Rob- Joseph Cihak (See hack) awoke at 4:30am on Wednesday morning to use the bathroom when he heard noises in his Westwood Terrace North home in St. Petersburg. Police said Cihak, who armed himself, walked into his living room to find Bryan Remley, 25, going through Cihak’s belongings. Cihak said he was armed because his home had been broken into a week earlier. The intruder started running towards the homeowner who fired two shots but missed. The homeowner ran to get a backup gun and came back to find Remley in the kitchen unable to get out. He held him there until police responded to the 911 call placed by Mrs. Cihak. While waiting, Remley told the homeowner he’d come back and mow his yard if he’d just let him go. Remley was charged with armed residential burglary and a probation violation. Mr & Mrs Cihak said they have a plan to be armed whenever they get up in the middle of the night.
Paul- We have the links to each of our news and defensive gun use articles at Polite Society Podcast.com if you want to share them with a friend.
Tips and tricks
Segment 5 Show close
Listener e-mail discussion
John- Ken from Arizona sent us this email
I thought this story might interest you. It encompasses registration, bans, storage, and government craziness.
Commentary : It’s a story about theft of registered firearms in New South Wales Australia. It seems that criminals are still finding a way to become armed. Color me shocked.
Paul- Chris emailed in this link to a story and says that this is why he carries a gun.
A white Missouri couple was brutally attacked outside of a Springfield nightclub by a mob of young black men, and now police are asking for the public’s help in identifying the attackers.
According to OzarksFirst, the incident happened on Aug. 22 outside of the Outland Ballroom. The victims sustained serious injuries after being assaulted by multiple black males.
Meredith Cole said she was outside of the club where her boyfriend Alex is a DJ, when she was approached by the group, who attempted to sexually assault her. Cole said she went back inside to tell her boyfriend what happened, and when they went back out to identify her assailants they were viciously attacked by the group.
KY3 reports that both of the victims had to seek treatment at the hospital for their injuries, which included a fractured ankle for Cole.
The story includes a video of the attack. You can see the video through the link in the show notes.
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Paul- Rob, do you have any new posts from your SlowFacts blog you want to mention?
Rob- I have a post where I contrast the fate of citizens in states that support the right of self-defense and in the states that deny that right.
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Paul: That wraps up another episode of the Polite Society Podcast. Until the next time…
Rob: stay safe,
Rachel: be aware,
John: and we’ll see you down the road.