Episode 225 – Citizens for a Safer New Jersey

Intro- “An armed society is a polite society.. and this is the Polite Society Podcast where we support and report on civilian self-defense.”
Rob: Welcome to the polite society podcast recorded on Wednesday, April 2nd. I’m Rob Morse
Rachel: I’m Rachel Malone and on tonights show we’ll talk with John Willit and Rich Petkevis about Citizens for a Safer New Jersey.
John: I’m John Richardson, and we’ll talk about self-defense news and our weekly stories of defensive gun use
Rachel: so climb aboard
John: strap in
Rob: and hang on! episode 225 of the Polite Society Podcast starts right now.
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Personal news from each participant
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John- The Connecticut Citizens Defense League has a rally scheduled on April 5th in Hartford Connecticut.  Connecticut deserves our support.  New York, Massachusets and Rhode Island gun owners are close enough to drive over.  http://www.ccdl.us/aboutus/events/277-gun-rights-rally

Rob- Mail in your NRA ballot too!  Ballots must be received by April 6th.

Rachel and Tim -Fort Hood shooting- There was a shooting this afternoon on base at Ft. Hood in Texas. Latest official reports have 4 dead including the gunman and 14 wounded. The shooter was 34-year-old Ivan Lopez who is reported to have died from a self-inflicted wound. The advice given to soldiers on base was to “shelter in place”. This is just another shooting that happened in a gun-free zone, and brings back memories to troops and Texans of the last Ft. Hood shooting that happened in 2009.

Obama’s statement: “working with folks on the ground to find out exactly what happened and be sure everyone is secure, and we will get to the bottom of this.” “We’ll do everything we can do make sure the community at Fort Hood has what it needs…”

Rob- This is not workplace violence.  These service men and women were killed by political correctness.. by criminal negligence by a commanding officer.

John -Albany, New York gun rights rally drew an estimated 3000 protesters saying repeal New York’s SAFE act that imposed magazine limits and outlawed many firearms.  The legislation takes effect in only two weeks and requires registration of all semi-automatic rifles.  http://www.wben.com/Trump–Astorino-Take-on-Cuomo-Over-NY-Gun-Control/18714252

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Rob -Colorado Sheriff’s take magazine ban to court.  Colorado’s new gun restrictions went on trial Monday as Second Amendment advocates seek to overturn the laws on grounds that they violate constitutional rights to keep and bear arms.  About 50 sheriffs said they would not enforce the new Colorado gun laws.  The state attorney general has the unfortunate task of defending Colorado’s new laws.  This trial is only a few hours old. http://denver.cbslocal.com/2014/03/31/colorado-gun-laws-argued-in-federal-court/

Paul- A West Virginia Sheriff refused to turn over list of gun owners after two newspapers asked for the information as a matter of public record.  Sheriff Patrick Butler said releasing information put the public, and the gun owners in particular, at risk.  West Virginia gun owners should give the sheriff some support.

Paul, should you comply with the law in order to oppose it?

Rachel- Iowa legislators have some explaining to do.  Speaker of the House, Kraig Paulsen, yesterday used a procedural rule to bury Constitutional Carry legislation yet again and kept it from coming up for a vote. Iowa gun owners were active and heard by both sides of the isle. The ruling class.. even republicans.. don’t support the right of self-defense in Iowa.  The message to Iowa gun owners is simple;  you snooze, you lose.

Paul- California’s top hypocrite Senator Leland Yee’s arrest for conspiracy to sell firearms without a license as well as many other crimes seems to have put a chill on 2 gun control bills that he introduced. You may recall from the last episode that Yee, who was rated A+ by the Brady Campaign and was on their Gun Violence Prevention Honor Roll, was arrested and has since posted bond.The Brady Campaign’s Amanda Knox said “I am very dismayed and upset, but his actions don’t make what is good policy any less good policy.”

Rob -We knew Washington DC was crazy, and unfortunately, here is more proof.  Mark Witaschek was tried and convicted of having inert bullets used in a muzzleloading rifle in his DC townhouse.  These are ammunition components for a rifle that doesn’t require registration in DC.  You heard that right.  You now have to register your rifles you don’t have to register so you can register the ammunition you have to register.  That is what DC law says, though it took DC lawyers four hours to figure that one out.  After the so called trial, Witaschek registered himself on DCs Firearms Offenders Registry as part of his sentence.  No one in the DC registry office or DC attorney’s office could explain if Witaschek is now prohibited from owning firearms

To offer some perspective, there were TWO murders with firearms in DC the same night that SWAT teams raided Witaschek’s house in their first witch hunt for illegal guns.  This is DC law enforcement at play while disarmed citizens bleed. http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/mar/28/mark-witaschek-surrenders-to-dc-police-gun-offende/

John- New York state issued a guide to law enforcement concerning the New York SAFE act.  The guide recommends ignoring the magazine capacity requirements since they are most likely unconstitutional. They also suggest ignoring the muzzle brake restrictions as unenforceable vague. http://www.ammoland.com/2014/03/ny-state-police-guide-revised-to-reflect-unconstitutionality-of-ammunition-ban/#axzz2x8VvsnUT

Rachel- In Georgia liberal leaning talk show host Mike Malloy had some interesting things to say on his radio show. This is a direct quote “I would like to invite one of the NRA board members, and I’ll be armed, let’s just get this over with, OK? Come on down to Georgia and I’ll be packing heat and you be packing heat or whether you want to or not, I don’t give a damn, it’s up to you. And you come, meet me someplace, and all of a sudden, see, we have stand your ground here, and all of a sudden I’m going to feel real goddamned threatened by you! And I will shoot you! If I feel threatened. The law says I can! Ha ha ha ha ha, ha ha ha ha ha!”

John – In New Mexico on Monday, the Second Amendment Foundation won again. They had sought an injunction against New Mexico’s citizens-only CCW law and they got it. John Jackson is a citizen of Australia and a legal, and I emphasize LEGAL,  resident of the US and residing in Rio Rancho, NM. He wanted to obtain a New Mexico CCW permit. Discrimination based upon alienage or whether you are a citizen or legal resident is a constitutionally suspect. Because of this, the judge applied strict scrutiny and decided that the state of NM could not show that legal residents posed a great risk to public safety than citizens. Thus, she granted the injunction against that part of New Mexico’s law. The rest of the law stands and Mr. Jackson still has to meet all other requirements to get a permit.

Rob- Gun Quote of the day- Buy gold if you want a good return on your investment.  If you want a good return on your freedom, buy lead! John Kirkwood

Rob- Hang on everybody, we’ll be back with the interview with John Willit and Rich Petkevis from Citizens for a Safer New Jersey.  right after this advertisement for Concealment Solutions.

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Rachel- Chicago citizens with carry licenses are not the only ones armed at home.  A Chicago police officer was at home with his 7 year old daughter during the middle of the day.  Men knocked at his front door and the officer ignored them thinking they were salesmen.  They weren’t.  They parked their van next to his house and then tried to force their way through the door.  The officer says one of the men drew a gun and the officer defended himself.  The injured man was taken to Advocate Christ Medical Center in Oak Lawn in serious-to-critical condition.

John – Police in Denver [CO] are investigating a shooting that occurred Tuesday afternoon... According to police, a homeowner shot a juvenile burglary suspect, who suffered injuries that aren’t considered life-threatening. “The homeowner was at home at the time and he heard some glass breaking and went on down,” said Sgt. Patrick Theriot from the Denver Police Department. The homeowner told CBS4’s Stan Bush the 17-year-old burglary suspect broke in through a back window of his him, lunged at him, and he shot him in the shoulder. The teen was who was reported to be in good condition was arrested. CBS-4 characterized the Colorado Castle Doctrine as “the make my day law”. Typical media bias.

Paul- Green light. gotta run. (err drive)

Rob- A Muskogee [OK] man shot and killed a robber last Saturday night.  Kyle Flood, age 30,told police that his 46 year old neighbor Dana Lewis knocked on his door and told Flood three men were burglarizing her home and needed help. Flood went inside his home and retrieved his pistol before he stepped back outside.  Three men were outside his neighbors home and Flood told the men to leave. Instead, the three men instead him.  Flood again told them to leave until one of the men came toward him in an aggressive manner.  Flood fired one shot at the man’s chest and all three suspects fled.

Police found the man a short time later in a nearby alley.  The injured burglar was transported to Eastar Hospital and died in hospital care.  Initial investigation shows Flood acted in self-defense.

Rachel- As defensive weapon carriers, we often hear the advice, “Carry 24/7 or guess right.” The obvious conclusion is that it’s impossible to guess right – but apparently, one woman did just that. A woman in Dallas, TX has had her CHL for 3 years but never carried. She decided to carry for the first time last week…..and that was the day she needed it. She was a witness as Kim Lamphone, a fellow rider on a DART train, was confronted by a shady-looking character who said, “Lady, I’ve got a gun; give me your bag.”  The armed bystander showed him her Glock and 23-year-old Jamil Karoma ran. It was later determined that Karoma had a BB gun. As for this witness….she has decided to not take her chances, and will be carrying more often from now on.

John- We have the links to each of our news and defensive gun use articles at Polite Society Podcast.com if you want to share them with a friend.  We have a tips and tricks segment with Kenn Blanchard.

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Rob- Listener e-mail discussion
We had a voice mail, but Paul pulled away from the truck stop and has it with him. We will cover it this weekend.
Email from Ken
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They just finished TOS and currently are doing the cartoon series. Next will be Next Gen and the movies. They are doing it one episode at a time, and will get it all done in about 11 or 12 years from now!

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Rob- Facebook message from Chad
Question for Rob – how do you dry fire a 1911?

John- Facebook message from Mick Swagger (former cast member)

I know this is a little bit late but in Ep: 221 you rant about sheep dogs and you rant that you do not carry for others just for yourself and your family. I understand that you would rather be a good witness for the victim but MLK jr says this “The first question which the priest and the Levite asked was: “If I stop to help this man, what will happen to me?” But… the good Samaritan reversed the question: “If I do not stop to help this man, what will happen to him?””

Rachel: The Polite Society download app is out on Amazon for Android and the I-phone app is in I-tunes.  They are located by our old name, Politics and guns.  Hot links are in our show notes.

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Rob: Roadgunner’s Mag 40 class in Conway, Arkansas at Shoot House USA is scheduled for May 15th thru 18th 2014 you can register here.


John: Also please check out Kathy Jackson’s Cornered Cat training classes. Her next class is at Carry On Colorado starting April 4 in Casle Rock, Colorado.


Rachel: Also please check out the shooters club by Bob Mayne and Ben Branam.  For $75.00 a year, $6.25 a month, you get 24/7 access to some fantastic training and audio podcasts that you can’t get anywhere else.  Bob is giving away his M&P Shield to one lucky member.

Rob: Listen to other podcasts on thethe Crusader Podcast Network.

Rob: Join the National Rifle Association, Second Amendment Foundation, Gun Owners of America and Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership.  Joining two makes you a hero.  Supporting all four makes you a super hero.  Not belonging to any of them means we won’t loan you any ammunition.

John: Join your local civil rights group like the New Jersey Second Amendment Society, Arizona Citizens Defense League, Gun Owners of California, Connecticut Citizens Defense League, Florida Carry,Grass Roots North Carolina,  Georgia Carry, Georgia Gun Owners,Grass Roots North Carolina, Illinois Carry, Michigan Gun Owners , Michigan Open Carry,

Rachel: and Michigan Coalition for Responsible Gun Owners, Minnesota Gun Owners Civil Rights Alliance, Texas Firearms Freedom, Texas State Rifle Association. Tennessee Firearms Association, West Virginia Citizens Defense League and Wyoming Gun Owners.

Rob: For our Canadian listeners, and their supporters, join the Canadian Shooting Sports Association and the Canadian National Firearms Association.

Rachel: That wraps up another episode of the Polite Society Podcast. Until the weekend show…
Rob: stay safe,
Rachel: be aware,
John: and we’ll see you down the road.