Episode 373 Laura Carno

 

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1- Open and Personal News Segment

2- News Segment

3- Interview Segment 1:  Laura Carno

4- Interview Segment 2: Craig DeLuz

5- DGU Segment:

6- Email and Show Close:

 

1- Introduction

“An armed society is a polite society.. and this is the Polite Society Podcast where we support and report on civilian self-defense.”

Paul: Welcome to the polite society podcast sponsored by the Firearms Policy Coalition recorded on Thursday, April 14th 2016, I’m Paul Lathrop

John: I’m John Richardson and on tonight’s show we talk with Craig DeLuz of the Firearms Policy Coalition about proposed California firearms legislation

Jenna: I’m Jenna Meek and we will also talk with Laura Carno about her new book.

Gary: I’m Gary Daugherty and we will talk about the Northern Marianas Islands passing a one thousand dollar per handgun tax .. so climb aboard

Susan: strap in

John : and hang on!

Paul:  episode 373 of the Polite Society Podcast starts right now.

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Personal news from each participant (when you are done with your segment please ask the next person what has been up with them)

 

JENNA – I have been teaching (when the weather allows, spring in CO is crazy!), writing, I finally got to take a class with John and Vicki Farnam a couple of weeks ago.

 

John – As I mentioned on the last podcast, I was going to spend the weekend at the Mother Earth News Fair in Asheville. I did and I had a good time. It attracted everyone from hippies in dreadlocks to vets who are into prepping and everyone in between. The only thing that could have made it better is if they had one building devoted to guns! I learned how to tan leather with and without the fur, how to make ginger beer, and, best of all, how to set up a small still.

 

In gun news, I had an order of AR lowers arrive one of which is going to be made into an AR pistol. It won’t exactly be a SBR but it will be as close as I can come without spending $200 and waiting 6 months! I do have a question for our listeners – has anyone ever used one of the pre-made NFA trusts that many of the dealer peddle for $120 or so? I’m debating going that route before July and the changes coming down the road.

 

Gary – What training do you have coming up?

http://www.firearmsafetyinstitute.com/

 

Paul/Susan

http://gogetfunding.com/fellow-advocate-needs-your-help/

http://www.concealmentsolutions.com/

 

Promo about upcoming training classes here.

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Tease Northern Marianas story

 

2- News

Northern Marianas passes a strong anti gun law.

Last week we reported that the Marianas Islands had had their ban on handguns struck down. So they did what any freedom hating government would do, they imposed a $1000 per handgun tax. Although that was only the beginning. The new law that was passed unanimously in the Commonwealth Senate and signed by the Governor also creates a ban on all carry outside the home and creates a licensing system. Also banned are centerfire rifle cartridges larger than .223 and shotgun shells larger than .410.

 

Not to worry, the SAF is on the case. Allan Gottlieb told Guns.com that “Our SAF legal team is working on the next step. It seems that the anti-gun rights politicians never learn”

 

John – I fail to see how a tax of $1000 on a $500 handgun is constitutional. The power to tax is the power to destroy.

 

Colorado trying to roll back magazine restrictions

 

In a move almost the polar opposite of what we just reported from the Pacific Islands, the state of Colorado’s Senate passed a bill that would eliminate the magazine capacity restriction that became law recently. The bill now moves to the Colorado House. NRA-ILA is requesting that if you live in the Rocky Mountain state that you get in touch with your representative and urge them to support Senate bill 113.

 

Jenna-

 

After backing out of the presidential race Chris Christie actually does something almost right!

 

Guns.com reported on Monday that New Jersey Governor Chris Christie issued new guidelines for obtaining a handun license.  One of the several reforms listed in the story was the adding of “Serious threats” to the list of qualifying circumstances in the states may issue permitting process. Up until now the process should have been referred to as may, but almost definitely will not issue.

 

It is too early to tell whether this will actually make a difference in the state, but time certainly will tell. We would like to remind our Garden State listeners that as with any executive order these can be changed on a whim by the next Governor and so it is crucial to stay involved and keep working to elect pro gun politicians.

 

John – Christie seems to be getting better even though his Presidential ambitions have been shot down.

 

Virginia Governor Terry Mcauliffe is asking to get bitch slapped.

 

Bob Owens over at bearingarms.com reports that Virginia Governor Terry Mcauliffe vetoed legislation that would have allowed people who are victims of domestic violence and have a restraining order to get an instant carry permit.

 

Now victims of domestic violence must wait the far too long 45 days for the Virginia system to grind its way through the process of issuing a permit before they can defend themselves outside the home.

 

John – The only good thing I can say for Virginians is that they can open carry legally without a permit.

 

Tease Laura Carno interview

 

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3- Interview 1-  Laura Carno

 

Tonight’s first interview is with Laura Carno. Laura has been a guest here many times and even helped co-host so most of our listeners should know her. Laura wrote a new book that just released. The title of the book is “Government Ruins Nearly Everything: Reclaiming Social Issues from Uncivil Servants “ Laura, thanks for coming back on the show.

 

First please tell us a little bit about your book. What are the “social issues” you cover?

 

Reducing gun violence is of interest to our listeners, tell us more about your approach to that.

 

You have been getting great reviews on Amazon, I would like to touch on just a few of them.

 

I made a big mistake when I bought this book…I ONLY BOUGHT TWO COPIES! Now I need to go back and buy some more to send to my friends.

What’s not to like about Laura Carno’s “Government Ruins Nearly Everything.” I liked the Parents Know Best section; I liked the Free Market section; I liked the Strong Marriages section. Actually, I liked the entire book.

Laura mentioned that Millennials want their freedoms. But I’ve observed Millennials want “free stuff.” Which is it? Someone has to pay for it. Laura gets it!

“Government Ruins Nearly Everything” is a must read for anyone who really cares

 

Second review

 

Clear thinking, chapter after chapter. Laura talks the right way about issues that usually get folks riled up. And when folks are riled up, they don’t listen to each other. She looks for real answers to some of the thorniest problems we face.

Laura frames issues in a way that’s bigger than a single topic, and gives real ideas for solutions that most people (politicians, especially!) are overlooking.

Practical, thought-provoking, optimistic, and surprisingly compassionate

 

It looks like you are getting fantastic feedback, I hope that the book’s sales are going as well as the reviews.

 

How long did the book take to write?

 

Are there more books on your horizon?

 

Where can people buy your book?

www.LauraCarno.com

http://amzn.com/0692672753

 

Tease Craig DeLuz interview

4- Interview 2-

 

5- DGUs

 

Home Invader Shot and Killed, Accomplices Charged With His Murder
An attempted invasion of a Columbus, Ohio condo resulted in the death of one robber and murder charges for his two accomplices. Nathaniel Easley, 24, was shot in the resident’s condo, staggered out into the complex and collapsed. Khomary Rand, 23, and Deshawn Lovejoy, 26, left their comrade on the pavement, but were arrested driving very erratically to elude capture, according to police. They have been charged with murder due to their participation in the crime that resulted in Easely’s death. During the altercation, a dog was also shot. The condo resident has not been charged nor identified for his or her protection.  

As an apparent result of his choices, Easley left behind his daughter; Nari “Elle, his parents and two siblings.

 

Elderly Man Shoots Invader
An elderly Missouri man had his lunch interrupted by three home invaders prepared for violence. Fortunately, he was dining with a firearm.

 

The man saw someone pull up very close to the house in a truck. The trio immediately started breaking down the front door. The startled resident ran back to the table where he had left his handgun. During that time, the three thugs broke open the door which was only held partially closed by a safety chain. The elderly man fired what he described as a warning shot and saw the pickup truck speed away.

In those confused moments, the homeowner arrived to find a man lying on his front porch. Police arrived a short time later and pronounce the man dead from a gunshot wound to the head. The deceased was found wearing gloves with an aluminum baseball bat nearby. The elderly man did not know the attacker, but the homeowner may know of him or his associates. Police are searching for the other two, and are fairly certain they know who they are.

By the evidence, it now seems that the elderly man prevented a robbery and perhaps much worse. Even though his shot was described as a warning shot, police believe he fired in fear for his life. At this time, the house guest is not expected to be charged; but the investigation is ongoing.

Warning shots are seldom a good idea. However, it seems this time the warning shot delivered a very pointed message, one that was justified by the facts.  

 

Paul –

 

Crime Spree Thwarted By Store Employee With a Gun
A criminal’s crime spree was interrupted by a store employee and her gun.  At least five Dayton, Ohio business had been robbed in short order by the same thug. However, things changed when he tried to rob the Sundeck Tanning Salon. Saying “I don’t want any trouble, just give me all the money,” the thief got only a gun to the face as the employee said I don’t think you’re going to get that money today.

 

The business owner said his employee was a little shaken, but it wasn’t enough to stop her from protecting their business. “She was really upset, but she’s not going to give up our money. This is our season. We’re a small family business. This is what we live off of and she’s not going to give that up.”

We applaud the woman who protected her herself and business with a gun, all without having to fire a shot. You listening out there, Shannon?  

 

Man Turns Gun on Home Invader

A 51-year-old Rochester man got home in time to defend his 16-year-old daughter from three invaders. However, in the gun-controlled paradise of New York State, he had to obtain the gun he used from one of the thugs.  

Around 10:30 at night, three masked and armed robbers broke into the home and began assaulting the young girl. The homeowner came home to this desperate situation. During the altercation, he was chased into a backyard and shot in the leg. The owner continued to fight and was able to wrestle a gun away from one of the thugs. That gun was used to incapacitate a suspect.

Police on patrol nearby heard the gunshot and were able to take the teenaged suspect into custody. The thug was hospitalized with facial injuries. The homeowner was hospitalized with non-life threatening injuries to his lower extremities. The victim’s daughter was also hospitalized for facial injuries. The two remaining invaders remain on the loose.

 

We congratulate the man for defending his daughter and his life. However, we wish he had the legal ability to carry and employ his own gun, rather than having to get one from the criminal. A criminal, who by the way, had no problem illegally possessing a gun in anti-gun New York.

 

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6- E-mail, blog notes, and show close

 

Before we get to the email discussion, I want to ask a few things. First PLEASE keep emailing, calling, and texting! The email address is onair@politicsandguns.com. The Phone number to text or call to leave a voicemail is 605-215-1438. We really do need more feedback.

 

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Paul: Rob, do you have any new posts from your SlowFacts blog you want to mention?

 

John – I don’t have any particular blog posts this week I want to point out. I’d just ask the listeners to go to onlygunsandmoney DOT blogspot DOT com to find my blog.

 

We would like to thank Charlie Foxtrot for writing up show notes for us. Even though you don’t hear him on the air he is certainly part of what you do hear. Look at his blog at not one more gun law dot blogspot dot com

 

Paul: That wraps up another episode of the Polite Society Podcast.  So for Charlie Foxtrot, Gary, Rob, John, Rachel and Susan,

(Paul, stop talking now.  NOW, damnit!)

 

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Jenna: Until the next time…

Gary: stay safe,

Susan: be aware,

Johnl: and we’ll see you down the road.

 

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Episode 372 – Interview with Alex Kincaid and we get a little crazy in News 1

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1- Open and Personal News Segment

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1- Introduction

“An armed society is a polite society.. and this is the Polite Society Podcast where we support and report on civilian self-defense.”

Paul: Welcome to the polite society podcast sponsored by the Firearms Policy Coalition recorded on Thursday April 7th 2016, I’m Paul Lathrop

Rob: I’m Rob Morse and on tonight’s show we talk with Alex Kincaid about recent court decisions affecting Idaho gun laws.

John: I’m John Richardson, We will also talk about my former home county in North Carolina that wanted to ban carry in county buildings and parks.

Rachel: I’m Rachel Malone and we’ll announce two more states which have passed Constitutional Carry!

Gary: I’m Gary Daugherty and in one of our Defensive Gun Use stories, a woman interrupts a burglar who is coming into her child’s bedroom window, so climb aboard

Rachel: strap in

Rob : and hang on!

Paul:  episode 372 of the Polite Society Podcast starts right now.

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Personal news from each participant (when you are done with your segment please ask the next person what has been up with them)

 

Rob-  I carried every day and all day.  Dry fired at home and live fired at the range.  Released another episode of self defense gun stories with Jeff Street, and we had our 4000th download today.  I’m reading a book on the second amendment by William Weir.  I also received Laura Carno’s book, “Government ruins nearly everything”.  Voted for NRA board of directors.  Ballots are due May 1, so mail them now.

 

John – Since I was last on, I spent Easter with my granddaughter who is growing by leaps and bounds, blogged some, and worked. Oh, and I won an auction for a rifle that I think was made by the great gunsmith and wildcatter P. O. Ackley. I put my bid in not expecting to win and now it is being shipped to my local FFL. The rifle is in .256 Newton which means I will be reloading for it. The caliber dates from 1916 and was one of the first to break the 3000 ft/sec. Barrier.

This weekend I’ll be going to the Mother Earth News Fair. I know it sounds like Hippie Central but it does draw a lot of preppers. My sister in law will have a booth selling kid’s books.

 

Rachel – 3 weeks down, 1 to go for spring football (and having two kids around). Last week of middle school choir rehearsals and performances. Not a lot of sleep or shooting. However, I did swing by the A Girl & A Gun meeting a couple weeks ago, and I’ve taught several LTC and Beginner Pistol classes for Texas Tactical Training Institute. More scheduled: April 16 and 18.

 

Gary – What training do you have coming up?

http://www.firearmsafetyinstitute.com/

 

Rob- South Africa dry fire vs flinch.

 

Paul/Susan

Computer issues – if you are registered for the MAG 40 in May, please email me so I have your contact information again.

http://gogetfunding.com/fellow-advocate-needs-your-help/

http://www.concealmentsolutions.com/

https://www.facebook.com/pages/A-M-S-Trucks-Brandon-SD/145650185531142?fref=ts

 

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2- News

 

Obama Administration Pro-Crime Initiatives

In the past weeks, the Obama administration has released a series of actions that have direct bearing on the citizens. Largely avoided by the media because of the third-rail nature of the racial politics, these initiatives certainly affect the safety of the Nation’s law abiding.  

First, Obama commuted the sentences of another 61 criminals. Most were involved in distribution of large amounts of illegal drugs, but one in five were also sentenced in part for gun crimes. Many others had their gun crimes dismissed as part of the plea deals that put them in prison. Those 61 join another 187 criminals who have benefited from Obama’s hypocritical approach to crime, where he is hard on the law-abiding gun owners and soft on the actual criminals.

Then, Obama’s Department of Housing and Urban Development issued a decree saying refusing to rent based on a criminal record is a form of racial discrimination. The Fair Housing Act is silent on criminals, but because Blacks and Latinos are arrested at a significantly higher rate than whites, HUD has stretched the law so landlords can no longer use a criminal record to screen applicants. The fact that a criminal record is often a predictor of other undesirable traits must be ignored according to the Federal bureaucracy. Landlords and mortgage providers who violate the administrative decree could face fines in the millions of dollars, depending on the scope of the alleged violations.

 

 Most troubling is the Obama’s Department of Justice’s nine-page letter to judges around the United States, warning them to limit prosecution of criminals, particularly those of minority status, or risk the loss of federal funding. Municipalities failing to toe the line could see the same type of federal investigations that Ferguson, Missouri endured after the police shooting of black teen Michael Brown. The fact that those shootings were largely found to have been justified, and the municipalities targeted are mostly minority controlled is ignored by the Obama administration.  

 

Obama’s new soft on crime approach directly affects the fabric of American society. It goes against the rule of law and most of the best practices of law enforcement. It reverses the Broken Window policing that has been shown to be so effective. Critically, it extends the hands-off “Ferguson Effect” that is responsible for so many inner city deaths in St Louis, Baltimore, Cleveland, LA and Chicago. Now, the entire nation is subject to the same enforced chaos. The eventual results are easily predictable.

 

We have alway suggested that our listeners should be prepared to defend their own lives, for when the government can not — or deliberately will not – defend them. Stay armed, stay vigilant, stay capable. Now, more than ever.

 

Rob-  $elective enforcement is like “may issue”.  It is a way to get campaign contributions and kickbacks.

John – Most violent crime is tried at the state level. I’d tell Loretta Lynch to keep her money. I’ll stop there because my next comment would not be appropriate for family friendly show.

 

NJ2AS Gets a Check From New Jersey
This had to have hurt the gun-controlled paradise of New Jersey: The so-called Garden

State had to cough-up a check to the New Jersey 2nd Amendment Society. Show friend Frank Fiamingo’s organization received a 100 thousand dollar check for legal fees associated with the state’s refusal to provide a Firearm Investigative Manual in an Open Public Records Act request. New Jersey refused the request in 2011, prompting the lawsuit and damage award. This is the first time in New Jersey history that the state had to write a check to a Second Amendment organization for legal fees. The NJ2AS will continue to fight for additional fees owed it, as well as the full, unredacted Firearm Investigative Manual.

 

You go, Frank!

 

John – I love it when anti-gun governments have to cough up cash to 2A organizations. The only part that bothers me is that it comes from all taxpayers and not just the government officials who broke the law.

rachel

Gary

Paul- let me bring you back up, Florida says that individual mayors and city and county representatives can be held personally liable for pre-empting state gun laws.

 

Last Handgun Ban in the United States Defeated

Another one bites the dust: the very last one. The last jurisdiction in America to ban handguns had its ban overturned. The Commonwealth of Northern Mariana Islands lost it’s prohibition of handguns in federal court. The court found the law violated the plaintiffs’ individual right to possess a handgun or other firearm for self-defense as guaranteed by the Second and Fourteenth Amendments to the United States Constitution. The plaintiff was attacked and beaten, resulting in injuries including two broken ribs, facial contusions, and a suspected broken orbital bone and eye socket. The court understandably found the law limited the plaintiff’s’ ability to protect themselves and their family in the event of violence.

 

Let’s see: sunshine, blue water, white sand, coconut drinks, and freedom — what’s not to like!

 

John – Saipan is the largest island in the Northern Mariana Islands. Let’s remember the over 3,000 Marines who died fighting for it during WW2 so that now they have the same constitutional rights as every other American.

 

Rachel

 

Idaho Approves Constitutional Carry

Formerly famous only for potatoes, Idaho now has another claim to fame: it is now the ninth state to adopt Constitutional Carry! Governor Butch Otter signed Senate Bill 1389, the NRA-endorsed permitless carry legislation. On July 1st Idaho will become the ninth state to recognize a citizen’s ability to possess a concealed handgun for self-defense without government-mandated permitting and fees.

 

Congratulations, Mashers!

Rachel:  http://alexkincaid.com/index.php/law-blog/post/the-four-year-rickety-road-to-permitless-carry-in-idaho-how-the-people-of-idaho-made-it-happen

 

Iowans Approve Suppressor Act
Not to be outdone by Idaho’s sudden rush to sanity, Iowans have secured their ability to have suppressors. Governor Terry Branstad just signed the Hearing Protection Act, House File 2279, into law. In the past, Iowans have been denied the use of the commonly available safety equipment that reduces the sound of a gunshot. After three solid years of effort, the bill was passed through a split legislature, powered by a grassroots campaign of social media, e-mails, phone calls, letters and visits. Iowans now can apply to the federal government for the 200 dollar tax stamp, the same as the other 41 states allowing suppressors.   

Congratulations to the Iowa Firearms Coalition! We’re heartened that they are seeing this victory as only the first step in protecting and enhancing Iowa citizens 2nd Amendment Rights.  

John – Now it is time that the US Congress pass the Federal Hearing Protection Act.

Rachel – suppressors are the polite way of shooting

John – I did a blog post a few years ago that suppressors selling for as low as $39 in New Zealand.

 

Mississippi Votes For Constitutional Carry
After all the above stories, it’s easy to Imagine Mikey Bloomberg reaching for that gallon bottle of aspirin he keeps on the back of his golden commode. This story from Mississippi can only make it better! The Mississippi House has voted 85-35 to concur with Senate amendments to House Bill 786, sending the legislation to Governor Phil Bryant (R) for his expected signature.

 

The legislation has advanced despite months of misleading attacks by Bloomberg and his anti-gun shills in the Everytown for Gun Safety and Demanding Mommies groups. The legislation also prohibits state or local enforcement of federal executive orders or agency regulations not approved by Congress which conflict with the Constitution of the United States or the Mississippi Constitution. The act also allows church authorities to designate enhanced carry permit holders or those with military or law enforcement backgrounds to protect places of worship and receive the benefits of the state’s Castle Doctrine.

All in all, quite a package, Mississippi. Congratulations! And Mikey, save some aspirin for Shannon.  

 

Rob- Now I have to read the bills in the Louisiana legislature and see if we can get suppressors legalized.

Rachel: I was hoping Texas could make top 10 or 20…at this rate, we’ll be lucky to make top 45 for Constitutional Carry.

John – Thanks to the Senate committee which added constitutional carry to the bill and to the House for agreeing to these amendments.

 

Haywood County North Carolina Blinks

Citizens must be forever on-guard when their governments are in session. The good commissioners of Haywood County were considering an ordinance to ban all open and concealed carry in county buildings and parks. That was, until approximately 400 gun rights activists packed the meeting in a show of 1st and 2nd Amendment Freedom. Bloomberg’s astroturf North Carolinians Against Gun Violence failed to put up any credible presence, giving the day to the energized Grass Roots North Carolina group. The county quickly announced that the Haywood County Board of Commissioners will not take any action at their regularly scheduled meeting of Monday, April 4, 2016 on the proposed ordinances for Carrying of Concealed Weapons and Displaying of Firearms …

Congratulations to the GRNC and the pro-gun activists that saved Freedom in the North Carolina county!  Keep up the pressure until the commission drops the proposed ordinance entirely.  You can’t ever turn your back on those bastards.

 

John – I lived in Haywood County for 32 years before Barb and I got married. The commissioners also had under consideration an outdoor shooting range ordinance. It was so strict that virtually nowhere in the county would have qualified. What makes this even worse is that all police ranges would be exempted. This was because they would have been out of compliance with the new law which required the range be 300 from the property line and ¼ mile to the nearest occupied building.

 

While I didn’t attend the meeting, I did email the commissioners. I did get a response from Commissioner Kevin Ensley, the lone Republican on the board, who said he was in favor of carry in county buildings and parks.

 

Rachel: at my LTC classes, students always wonder “why that quirky restriction, and not another?” The legislature doesn’t examine every possible law they could make and pass what they want; they make their decision based on the small groups that make the most noise. Let’s be sure that’s us.

Rob- amen.  Stand up and make noise.

John – You nailed it.

Gun Quotes

 

John Kennedy, writing in 1960 posited “fears of governmental tyranny” as the impetus “which gave rise to the Second Amendment” to begin with. And although he believed it “unlikely” that such tyranny “[would] ever be a major danger to our nation,” he said “the Second Amendment will always be important.”

We’ll be right back with an interview with Alex Kincaid discussing recent changes to Idaho gun laws.

 

NEWS 2 – already recorded and edited –

 

Hang on everybody, we’ll be back with our defensive gun use.

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3- Interview 1- Alex Kincaid

Alex is a firearms attorney, public speaker, second amendment advocate and author of Defending Your Right to Defend Yourself  Welcome Alex, did I get that right?

  1. Alex, Congratulations to Idaho for enacting permitless carry.  Someone posted an article saying that permitless carry is trouble for Idahoans.  Could you explain that article and your response?
  2. In Illinois the carry law says I can drive right onto school property with my concealed firearm, would this still be a federal violation for Illinois gun owners?
  3. Massad Ayoob makes a distinction between constitutional carry and permit less carry how do you see that issue?
  4. Permitless carry only applies to Idaho residents.
  5. Where can our listeners find out more about you?

 

4- Interview 2- Brandon Combs

 

5- DGUs

 

Dallas Fort Worth Woman Shoots One Invader – And Runs Out of Ammo

Many internet commandos point out that the average self-defense gunfight last less than 3 rounds. They use that fact to justify firearms with reduced round capacity. A Dallas-Fort Worth woman learned the fallacy of the law of averages when two invaders broke down her door.  The 61-year-old woman grabbed her gun and shot one of the intruders in the stomach. However, she ran out of bullets shooting at the second suspect. The uninjured burglar attacked her and beat her severely. “He must of heard me clicking it because that’s when he came back and beat me up really bad,” said the woman. The woman suffered a concussion and her face was covered with cuts and bruises. All in all, she probably got off very lucky.

Saul Guzman, 21, was found in a hospital being treated for a non-life threatening gunshot wound to the stomach. Police found a second suspect, Pedro Guzman, also 21, sitting in his car across the street from the hospital. Investigators also found a stolen purse connected to a different burglary inside a trash can nearby. Both suspects were charged with Burglary of Habitation, Felony Theft or Assault, Theft of Firearm, and Burglary of Vehicle.

 

The victim said she is installing a security system at her home and will be buying another gun. “I hope other women will take note,” she said. “I am glad I was able to defend myself.” We’re glad she will be buying another gun; we hope that gun will have more capacity – you just never know when you will be the one of the 50% that exceeds that average round count.

 

Rob- The average number of attackers is 2.3, so the homeowner was lucky she didn’t face 3 attackers.  Missed shots don’t count.  Studying these examples of defensive gun use helps you stay focused and stay on target.  And gut shots are quite lethal, but not immediately incapacitating.

 

Paul is that 5 or 6 shot revolver really enough?

Rachel: we reported recently on a woman who ran out of ammo with a shotgun without hitting her target. She and her infant twins thankfully still escaped with their lives.

 

Mother Shoots Intruder in Baby’s Room

An intruder got between a momma bear and her cub, and paid the price. An Indianapolis, Indiana woman heard the sounds of a break-in coming from her baby’s room and armed herself. She surprised the man coming from the room, where he shot first. She returned fire and hit the suspect multiple times. Police took the burglar to the hospital where his condition is unknown. Neither the woman nor her child was injured. William Barnes, 38, has  been charged with burglary with a deadly weapon, taking property by force or threatening the use of force while armed, battery by means of a deadly weapon and carrying a handgun without a license.

Police said this type of incident was very rare in the area, which is mostly quiet and residential. The robber was most unusual, as he carried zip ties and a walkie-talkie.  Police said they will be investigating this incident aggressively.

 

Rob- The homeowner called her husband, then got her gun.  That dithering gave the intruder time to enter the child’s room.  If she was carrying she might have stopped him from entering the house.

 

Paul – Walkie talkie means more people were likely involved

 

Craiglist Date Ends in Gunfire

Now, just who could have seen this coming?  A sexcapade engineered through Craigslist ended in robbery and gunfire. Early Saturday morning a man met met a woman outside a duplex after connecting online. He was walking to an apartment with the woman, when 19-year-old Steven Hurston allegedly appeared with a gun and told him to hand over his money. The victim drew his CCW and fired at Hurston, killing him. The victim called police standing over the robber.  

 

Chattanooga Police say a local couple has been enticing strangers for sex on websites like Craigslist and Backpage. The woman was probably working with Hurston. Police believe this could be the same couple responsible for at least four other incidents since December.

 

Paul – play stupid games win stupid prizes

Was the woman caught?

Son Defends Mother – and Memory of Father – In Home Invasion

History repeated itself 50 years later when a shot was fired during a home invasion.  This time, it was the invader who suffered the gunshot wound. A 54-year-old Chicago man who had lost his father to a home robber 5 decades in the past, defended himself and his 88-year-old mother when a man tried to break into the home’s window.  “I heard the gunshot,” Tate said. “And then my son called me, ‘Momma, somebody tried to break in the window.'” Police followed a trail of blood and found the 36-year-old wounded man two blocks away. The wounded man was taken to a hospital with a .22 caliber injury to his arm.

 

The uninjured woman said several of her siblings and children have been killed in gun violence. However, she is glad her son was there and armed with her pistol. “My son said he wasn’t going to let that somebody come in that window. He knew those boys came in the house and killed his father. He wasn’t going to let somebody come in the house and kill me.” However, the old girl said that the intruder was lucky. If she had been the one shooting, she would have shot through the window and hit him in the chest.

 

Paul – Good on them- but let’s think about a larger caliber than .22.

 

Chicagoland Street Robbery Fatal to Thug

Also from the mean streets of Chicagoland comes a tale of three men, two guns, and a CCW license.

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Email from Alan in New Jersey

 

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As a resident of a state (NJ) that has a de facto ban on civilian Concealed Carry, what are your thoughts on a “trunk gun”? In accordance with NJ law, I can have an unloaded long gun, in a “secured bag or package” in my vehicle at all times. Handguns are unfortunately trickier, as we are only legally allowed to have them in our vehicle if we are going to/from a gun shop or shooting range.

 

My opinion on the idea of a trunk gun is that it’s largely worthless, in that if i have the opportunity to escape a situation to grab my rifle from the car, then i have the opportunity to escape the situation PERIOD. If i’m in a mobile situation, it’d be impossible to get to the weapon, charge it, and get it into action and ALSO if the vehicle is still mobile, then getting out of there is the #1 option.

 

Thanks for listening, and i’m thoroughly enjoying the podcast.

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Rob- I agree with you, Alan.  

Paul – School active shooter.

Gary –

Rachel – didn’t we have a DGU where the guy defended himself with a trunk gun successfully? Like Paul said…why not have the option? For daily regular carry though, find other legal options

John – In other states, if you are allowed to have a pistol in the car, this might be the case where an AR-15 pistol could come in handy. It would be essentially a PDW.

 

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David from Ohio wrote in as well

 

Dear Polite Society,

Over Easter weekend we spent time with my wife’s sister’s family on both days. Her sister let’s call K and her husband J.  J is definitely middle to the left and comes from a very liberal family so we don’t talk politics much during the holidays. Anyway, Saturday we were talking about the Brussels attack and K and J said (paraphrasing), you have guns. If there is ever an emergency, we will bring our 4 kids over to your house and you will protect us. To which I tried to play it off. Now it is important to point out that J is a doctor so having someone with medical training would be good. But neither have any knowledge of firearms or self defense so handing them a gun would just be dangerous. On Sunday J started talking about how Garland was a good pick for the Supreme Court because he is a “middle of the road” candidate. I told him I thought Garland was a horrible choice and it goes right along with Obama’s anti-gun stance. He replied that I should hope he gets the nomination because Hillary will put someone even worse in. I ended the conversation. So to recap, nominate someone who wants to take guns away. But in case of emergency, run to the person that has them for protection. After all, it’s not your responsibility to protect yourself and family. Yup, sounds liberal to me. Keep up the good work.
David from Ohio

 

Rachel- As humans, we’re all inconsistent in some way. This kind of inconsistency is easy for us to spot in others. On the positive side, maybe this inconsistency will give you an opening to soften them more to the idea of firearms ownership and use as a positive thing. Maybe they’ll eventually get training themselves to take responsibility for their own kids’ safety.


Rob- Ask them why they want to run to you and your house?
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Todd emailed in a comment about a previous episode.

 

Comment from last week’s show. The 2183 stamp is on the face of the follower; you don’t have to disassemble the mag. However, there may be another solution. I was having trouble with 124 gr HST +P in my G19. I had approx 2300 rds through the gun. I asked the local LE Glock rep about the followers and he recommended a new RSA (recoil spring assembly). He mentioned that in his experience, a new RSA fixed most feeding problems. Sure enough, that fixed my issues with the HST’s. I’m still using 2183 followers in all my CA mags.

 

Incidentally, if you simply feel like you have to replace them, give Glock a call. They will probably send you a few free of charge.

 

Todd

 

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A Text came in from JP

 

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Hey guys & gals, I have a DGU question. After you stop a home invasion and you call the police. What would you advise your family to say to the police? I know you’re suppose to say very little to the police until after I talk with my attorney but my family, what are they suppose to say? I can see how what they say may help or hurt me unintentionally in my defense.

 

Rob- same rules apply.

Rachel – GREAT point. Talk with your family ahead of time and tell them this.

Gary –

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Paul: Rob, do you have any new posts from your SlowFacts blog you want to mention?

 

Rob- I wrote about the messy reality of self-defense and about a few of the times armed civilians saved lives in March.  That article and more are posted at Clash Daily, at Ammoland and at my blog slow facts dot wordpress dot com.

 

John, tell us what’s new at your blog no lawyers only guns and money

 

John – It’s been a long show so I just want to point briefly out a post I did today. It is called Every Picture Tells A Story, Part V. It shows the growth of shall issue and permitless carry since 1986. Look at the charts. We are winning.

 

That and more is at only guns and money dot blogspot dot com.

 

We would like to thank Charlie Foxtrot for writing up show notes for us. Even though you don’t hear him on the air he is certainly part of what you do hear. Look at his blog at not one more gun law dot blogspot dot com

 

Paul: That wraps up another episode of the Polite Society Podcast.  So for Charlie Foxtrot, Gary, Rob, John, Rachel and Susan,

(Paul, stop talking now)

 

Rachel: Until the next time…

Gary: stay safe,

Susan: be aware,

Paul: and we’ll see you down the road.

Episode 371 Brussels Terror Attacks

 

Full Episode Download:

1- Open and Personal News Segment

2- News Segment

3- News Segment

5- DGU Segment:

6- Email and Show Close:

 

1- Introduction

“An armed society is a polite society.. and this is the Polite Society Podcast where we support and report on civilian self-defense.”

Paul: Welcome to the polite society podcast sponsored by the Firearms Policy Coalition recorded on Thursday March 24th 2016, I’m Paul Lathrop

Rob: I’m Rob Morse and on tonight’s show we will talk about the Muslim attacks in Brussels Belgium.

Gary: I’m Gary Daugherty and in one of our Defensive Gun Use stories, a landscaper walked into a building to face an active murderer.. so climb aboard

Susan: strap in

Rob : and hang on!

Paul:  episode 371 of the Polite Society Podcast starts right now.

Show intro music.

 

Personal news from each participant (when you are done with your segment please ask the next person what has been up with them)

 

Rob- Carried every day. Got to meet with friend of the show, Doctor John Edeen.  Posted the next episode of Self Defense Gun Stories.  We had our 2000th download.

Gary – What training do you have coming up?

http://www.firearmsafetyinstitute.com/

 

Rob- Do you get requests for advanced training?

Rob- So the only time they will want a gun is when the police are not there?  That is too late.

 

Paul/Susan

http://gogetfunding.com/fellow-advocate-needs-your-help/

http://www.concealmentsolutions.com/

 

Promo about upcoming training classes here.

Live promo – Concealment Solutions deal of the day.

 

2- News

 

Brussels Terrorist Attacks

Once again, citizens of Western civilization have felt the barbaric sting of Islamic terrorism. In Brussels, Belgium, the capital of the European Union, three or more powerful bombs ripped through airport check-in areas and a subway station. Thirty four people died and two hundred and fifty were injured, many of them seriously by the shrapnel loaded bombs. There is a possibility that the attacks specifically targeted Americans as the American embassy is near the subway station and the airport bombs were located near the counters of nation’s airlines. Families of American servicemen and missionaries were injured in the attack and there are still Americans among the missing. In an official release, ISIS quickly claimed credit for the rush-hour attacks. It is thought that two of the bomber remain at large and could be hiding in the many large Muslim enclaves throughout Europe.

The staff of the Polite Society Podcast certainly express our sincere condolences to the citizens of the many nations affected by the attacks. However, we must point out some harsh facts: The Muslim extremists responsible for the attacks were freely admitted and fostered by the leaders of the nation they turned on. The same leaders have been doing their very best to disarm their citizens, making them helpless in the face of the threats their leaders allowed. European politicians have created a danger that their ideology forbids responding to effectively. They have also ensured that their citizens cannot defend their lives in this de facto guerrilla war – and their governments can not or will not defend them. It will be the people that suffer – their leaders will most certainly escape what they have wrought.

As Americans, we must recognize the dangerous similarity to our situation. Our leaders are admitting a host of unverified refugees and have effectively opened our borders to all. At the time of the attacks, Obama was in Cuba, making nice to Communists who in saner times were listed as state sponsors of terrorism. He was quick to damn any call for additional actions against the hostile Islamic elements festering on American soil. And our political leaders on the left are certainly hostile to the arms that could defend the people against enemies foreign and domestic.   

This is one of the very reasons our Founding Fathers specifically acknowledged the right to keep and bear arms in the Constitution. And why we must fight so hard to maintain that right. Our elites may not – probably will not – be there for us.   

Rob- Muslim terrorists turned to using bombs once they faced guns from armed citizens.

 

England Puts Every Firearm Owner in a Terrorist Database
The British government demanded the personal details from every single person with access to firearms and put them in a database with known terrorists. All those with access to firearms have had their personal data transmitted to the police. The information is then run through the Police National Computer, local force intelligence databases, the Police National Database (to look up the history of properties associated with that person), and Special Branch’s records. There is no oversight of what happens to the personal data once it is in the police’s hands. More than 1 in 65 of the entire UK population is now on a state database alongside known terrorists.


This excess is the natural consequence of a surveillance society, where the law abiding are subject to ever increasing levels of examination and control. However, those outside the law, the criminals who are the actual problem, are relatively untouched. It is always far easier for the government to control those who do not need to be controlled. Think about that when yet another law is proposed to more tightly track and control the lawful firearm owner, ignoring the real threat.

 

Rob-

 

Professor Freaks Out When She Spots Guns

A professor at the University of North Dakota went into her safe space and panicked in fear when she spotted two figures in camouflaged uniforms with guns outside her classroom. Cowering beneath her desk, she called 911 —  and was told it was just ROTC cadets performing a scheduled exercise. Her relief turned to rage when informed the ROTC would be exercising on campus for the next couple of weeks .

 

In a rather overblown, poorly written letter to the editor, the associate professor of English said she’ll be “calling 911 for the next couple weeks—and I will. Every time. It’s not my job to decide whether people carrying guns at school are an actual threat.” The special snowflake called the ROTC’s actions highly inappropriate and irresponsible. She fumed that ‘We’re already under financial and emotional attack. We don’t need to feel under physical attack, too.”

 

If she does unnecessarily call 911 in the coming weeks, we hope UND authorities take appropriate action. Somehow, we doubt if they will.

 

Paul – This is funny, but incredibly sad. This woman is partially responsible for teaching our young people.

Rob- This behavior reveals a very immature adult.  I can’t condone her overwrought outrage masked by her academic credentials.

Gary –

 

Rob –

 

Throw to break at end of discussion

 

2nd News


Win For the Second Amendment and Non Gun Arms

In a unanimous decision, the Supreme Court has extended the Heller and McDonald decision to arms that are not firearms. In 2011, Jaime Caetano was convicted of having a stun gun in her purse. She was carrying the stun gun because an abusive ex-boyfriend had put her in the hospital and was continuing to harass her at her place of employment despite several restraining orders. The case made it to the Supreme Judicial Court of Massachusetts, who ruled the conviction must stand because a stun gun is not the type of weapon that is eligible for Second Amendment protection. Massachusetts considered stun guns as dangerous and unusual modern weapons that were not in common use at the time of the Second Amendment enactment.

The Supreme Court’s 8-0 decision strongly rebuked the Massachusetts court for its flawed reasoning.  They ruled that judgment is inconsistent with Heller‘s clear statement that the Second Amendment extends to arms that were not in existence at the time of the founding. The Supreme Court vacated that judgment and ordered the Supreme Judicial Court of Massachusetts to rehear the case.

 

In the strongly worded opinion signed by Justices Alito and Thomas states that “The Commonwealth of Massachusetts was either unable or unwilling to do what was necessary to protect Jaime Caetano, so she was forced to protect herself. To make matters worse, the Commonwealth chose to deploy its prosecutorial resources to prosecute and convict her of a criminal offense for arming herself with a nonlethal weapon that may well have saved her life. The Massachusetts Supreme Judicial Court then affirmed her conviction on the flimsiest of grounds. According to author Alito, “If the fundamental right of self-defense does not protect Caetano, then the safety of all Americans is left to the mercy of state authorities who may be more concerned about disarming people than about keeping them safe.”

Well said, Justice Alito — well said.  

 

Rob- NY knife laws.

 

Supremes Decline to Hear Case on Carrying in Post Office
It’s not all good news from the US Supreme Court: a case challenging the US Postal Service’s ban on guns in their buildings and parking lots will not be heard by the Court. The Colorado case backed by the NRA, Firearms Owners Against Crime and Firearms Industry Consulting Group was denied, effectively making the parking lot ban the law of the land. It is now up to Congress to address this pressing issue.

 

Rob-  It is amazing that you can exercise your first amendment rights in a post office, but not your second amendment rights.  Not even in the parking lot.  Any you don’t have a choice but to use this government monopoly.

 

Obama’s Supreme Court Nominee Has Anti-Gun Rights Record

Judge Merrick Garland, nominated by Obama to fill the Supreme Court vacancy, apparently has a very weak record on the Second Amendment. In the past, he has upheld a Clinton administration effort to store gun-buyers’ records. He also attempted to reconsider the landmark case that would eventually become Heller, which eventually established the Second Amendment’s protection of a personal right to bear arms.

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Garland is probably the most anti-gun Supreme Court nomination in decades, according to  Brian Rogers, executive director of a conservative group conducting opposition research on the Judge. Other conservative groups are poring over Judge Garland’s 19-year record on the D.C. court and are saying he will likely take a decidedly liberal view on issues such as abortion, the environment and executive authority. The Wall Street Journal has opposed Garland’s nomination on the grounds that he is a friend of big labor and regulators, not small businesses.

It is important that supporters of the Second Amendment contact their US Senators and demand that Garland’s nomination not be acted upon. Urge them to stand on the same principles that Obama, Biden and Reid once espoused. It is essential that Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell not be given the chance to roll-over once again.  

 

Gun Quotes

Every study on crime and or firearms proves time and time again, that 99.99999% of American gun owners do not commit crimes or use our firearms in any dangerous or improper way.

Ted Nugent

 

Hang on everybody, we’ll be back with our defensive gun use.

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3- Interview 1- not this week

 

4- Interview 2- not this week

 

5- DGUs

Saved by another employee– Joseph Curry drove up to the Jacksonville, Florida landscape company where he worked.  People were running from the building yelling that another employee was shooting people inside.  Curry got out of his car and stepped into the building with his gun.  That is when Curry met the armed attacker holding a pistol in his hands.  Evidently the attacker’s gun had jammed, and the attacker was heading outside to get a baseball bat from his truck.

 

Curry told the attacker to drop the gun.  The attacker saw Curry’s gun.  The attacker dropped his gun and ran. Curry let him go.   The attacker was arrested by police a few blocks away.

 

Rob- stopped mass murder?  No shots fired.  Hard to know where your shots might end up.

 

Thief is Shot And Killed – Relatives Defend Him:  How’s he gonna get his money?
This story is an unfortunate commentary on our society: a young thief lost his life burglarizing a home and his relatives were quick to justifying his actions, asking how he’s gonna get his money?  

A 53-year-old woman was alerted to a home break-in by her security system. Arriving before the cops, she saw Trevon Johnson, 17, climbing from the rear of her house. An altercation ensued, and the licensed concealed carrier shot and killed the alleged thief. Police said the homeowner was taken to a police station for questioning and is cooperating with detectives.

 

The shooting has been divisive in the community. Johnson’s relatives were very vocal in their defense of his actions. His cousin Nautika Harris said, “He was not supposed to die like this. He had a future ahead of him. Trevon had goals… “What’s wrong with her,” demanded Johnson’s sister Nisha Johnson. “She did not have to shoot him.” “You have to look at it from every child’s point of view that was raised in the hood,” said Harris. “You have to understand… how he gonna get his money to have clothes to go to school?” Expressing similar sentiments, the Washington Post published an article all but demanding her arrest.  The article incorrectly compared Johnson’s shooting to the Trayvon Martin shooting.

The state’s attorney’s office must now decide if it will file charges against the homeowner. Florida does provide protections for its homeowners who confront intruders.  

It’s a sad situation all around. We remind our listeners that a self-defense shooting is just that; it’s not acceptable to shoot to defend property. However, the homeowner may well have been justified if the burglar made a threatening move toward her. However, the local social norms are damning her regardless of the actual situation. We must all be aware of these dynamics.    

 

Seeking Revenge, an Intruder Gets Only a Bullet

Seeking revenge on his old lover, a man broke into a Macon, Georgia area home.  However, he only got a bullet. Police found the woman’s brother in the backyard pointing a gun at a prone man dressed in all black. Blake Elliot Herman, 34, had entered the home using a key possibly stolen from the woman’s purse. The brother heard a noise from his sister’s room; opening the door he saw a man in the doorway. The two fought and Herman broke free, running out of the backdoor with the brother on his heels. During the chase, the brother claims Herman reached into his pocket. Thinking the man held a gun, he fired in fear of his life.

The man in black was hit in the leg. Herman will be charged with burglary when he is released from the hospital. The brother was not injured and no one else was at home.  

Brother With Gun: 1 — Jilted Ninja: 0

 

Rob- Why do you chase a fleeing suspect?

Teen burglars greeted by gunfire Near Pittsburgh Pennsylvania
Four teenaged burglars entered a Pittsburgh Pennsylvania area home late one night. Two of the thieves were shot by the man living in the house. This being the 21st Century, the occupant and one of the thieves immediately posted about the altercation on Facebook.

A wounded 13-year-old suspect was found a half mile away, collapsed and bleeding. The other wounded 16-year-old suspect was found nearby. Their two similarly aged accomplices escaped, but returned to the scene to watch the police and were arrested there. One of those cherubs posted a live Facebook video from the back of a police cruiser where he was heard insulting police and talking about how the others were shot. Not to be outdone, the 21-year-old burglary victim posted on Facebook “Thank God for the right to bear arms” and “I kept my house safe” and “took all six shots out of my little .380 to keep my family safe.”  The four young idiots were taken to a juvenile detention facility. The 21-year-old resident hasn’t been charged. Police say he may have had a right to defend himself under the state’s Castle Doctrine.

Training, people; get some. It may save you from doing, saying, or, dog forbid, posting something stupid.  

A Baylor student loses only his cellphone, a PlayStation and an iPad
In another of our Cavalcade of Idiots, a Baylor University student was extremely lucky to lose only his cellphone, PlayStation and iPad. He met two men to finish a Craigslist deal to sell his electronics. The two told him they needed to go to a nearby home to get the money for the purchase. Driving to a house in the student’s car, the two drew guns when the trunk was opened to display the merchandise. Somehow having the foresight to have secreted a gun in the trunk, the student drew and forced the thieves to run off with their loot of electronics. One thief turned and fired, hitting the car. Waco and Baylor officers were still searching for the two suspects.

Brains, people; get some.

Rob- This student may have been disarmed because he lived in a gun free zone on his college campus.

 

Woman Saves Her Life With a .357

JoShanda Odems heard an insistent knocking on her Nashville area apartment door shortly before noon. Smartly using only the peephole, she saw a man she did not recognize. She retreated to a bedroom closet and called 911. She also grabbed a .357 revolver, an act that just may have saved her life.  

The man broke into the apartment, and when he came to the closet where Odems was hiding, she put the 911 operator on hold — and shot the intruder. Trenton Hartman, 24, showed up at a local hospital sporting a probably really impressive gunshot wound to his shoulder.  Hartman has been charged with aggravated burglary, with a bond set at $100,000. He was already free on bond for a felony theft charge involving stolen lottery tickets.

 

Gee, Shannon Watts, do you think that gun might have empowered that woman – and saved her life?  

 

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Before we get to the email discussion, I want to ask a few things. First PLEASE keep emailing, calling, and texting! The email address is onair@politicsandguns.com. The Phone number to text or call to leave a voicemail is 605-215-1438. We really do need more feedback. It has been 2 weeks since we recorded last and we only have a few emails and no voice mail or texts. I often say kiddingly that I will read spaghetti recipes if we don’t have listener feedback well guess what? (rattle some paper) I have some ready!

 

Also please if you want your email read on the air email it to onair@politicsandguns.com, not to Paul. I get a TON of email every day, and I do try to go through it when I am working on show notes and see if there were any that are supposed to be read on the air, but the chances of me missing it is really good.

 

Finally it came up in a recent show where I asked how many grains were in a chevy. A friend texted me and told me that if you had a large compact or small mid sized sedan (4500 lbs) that you are driving about 31.5 million grains of automobile.

 

Listener e-mail discussion

 

Comment off of the website

 

Thanks for the show. Great info, as usual.

As to the gentleman who commented about not being able to draw his weapon while riding his motorcycle; Paul was pretty spot on… at that point evasion is your best bet. As a rider, you must always be in the “defensive” mindset. Even the smallest car is several times your mass, and has a hard candy shell to boot. Irritating another driver is a very good way to get an up close and painful demonstration of several immutable laws of physics.

I have been riding for many years, and shooting for many more, but I cannot foresee a time when one would ever have to defend oneself while motoring down the road on a bike. Your assailant would merely have to wait until you put yourself in a ditch while trying to steer, aim and fire.

For that matter, I cannot imagine a good reason to do so in a car, either.

Be careful out there,

God Bless,

Ed

http://www.fox32chicago.com/news/local/100193390-story

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Jake from Iowa wrote in:

 

I just wanted to share with you guys my own excitement over a resounding legislative win in Iowa.  Iowa Senate recently passed HF2279, a suppressor legalization bill that also mandates a CLEO sign-off if a candidate is not prohibited from possessing a firearm.  It passed by an incredible 46-4 margin, and when it was passed by the house some time ago, it passed by a similarly impressive 74-24 margin.  It’s not officially law yet, but soon it’s off to the governor to sign, and there are indications that he will sign it, so I’m optimistic!

 

I’m also wondering if any of the cast are also buying an AR or two now that the prices are back down – I recently found an irresistible deal on a little 16″ carbine, and I have it well set-up with a free-float handguard, Vortex Sparc II red-dot, and Magpul MBUS sights, and the whole setup will be brand new and under $900, which is pretty hard to beat.  I’m skeptical they’ll ever get much lower than they are now, so I’m gonna build my dream gun (or guns) now!

 

Enjoying the show as always,

– Jake from Iowa

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Jerry wrote in again:

 

Thank you for addressing my question on appendix carry.

 

We always talk about shooting your carry ammo. Last week I shot several rounds of my carry 9 mm hollow point and found that they often fail to feed in my Glock 19 when the magazine is nearly empty or the slide lock is released. The bullet hangs up on the feed ramp due the the angle of the follower. A little Internet research suggests that the 10 round magazines with a follower stamped “2183” are known to have a feed problem, especially with hollow point cartridges. New followers are less than $4 and perhaps can be obtained free from Glock.

 

For years my Glock ate everything jacketed I fed it without complaints. From now on I will periodically shoot my carry ammo, and at least a full magazine each time. Fortunately I found the problem at the range not on the street. I’m guessing the click of an unexpectedly empty chamber is one of the loudest sounds a gun makes.

 

Thanks!

https://pistol-forum.com/showthread.php?8902-how-bad-do-10-round-glock-19-magazines-suck/page3

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Pat sent the next one:

 

Hello all,

 

I often hear people lament that all they hear about the candidates are the media soundbites that they are spoon fed along with a desire to find out more real details about the candidates positions and records. I wanted to introduce you to a website that I have supported for many years where there is a wealth of information on major and minor candidates.  Positions, voting records, ratings by a range of special interest groups and much more.  I have found it to be a very unbiased source of information.

Check out www.votesmart.org.

Really like the podcasts, in particular the news and DGU segments.  I had the pleasure of meeting Charlie Foxtrot at a Patriots Day Appleseed event in Missouri.  He really can turn a phrase.

I am very much looking forward to attending the MAG40 this May in Sioux Falls.  I hope that I will get a chance to meet in person a few of the people I listen to each week.

Pat

 

I wrote about rating sites here-

https://slowfacts.wordpress.com/2016/03/21/it-takes-minutes-to-judge-the-candidates/

Paul – www.wallbuilders.org

www.votesmart.org.

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Ida sent in our final email/

 

How can I find local beginner training in Georgia?  I occasionally go to a great Gun range, Governors Club, but I can’t find training like the courses you talk about.  It seems they are all out of state which is not an option for me.  Seems crazy I can’t find training when it seems just about everyone has a gun out here in the country.

Thanks

Ida

http://www.nrainstructors.org/search.aspx

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Rob- ?? http://www.usacarry.com/directory/category/firearm-instructors/georgia-firearm-instructors/

 

Paul: Rob, do you have any new posts from your SlowFacts blog you want to mention?

 

Rob- I wrote how California laws target honest gun owners  That and more are posted at Clash Daily, on  Ammoland and on my blog slow facts dot wordpress dot com.  John, tell us what’s new at your blog no lawyers only guns and money

 

http://onlygunsandmoney.blogspot.com/2016/03/hydraulic-tests.html

That and more is at only guns and money dot blogspot dot com.

 

We would like to thank Charlie Foxtrot for writing up show notes for us. Even though you don’t hear him on the air he is certainly part of what you do hear. Look at his blog at not one more gun law dot blogspot dot com

 

Paul: That wraps up another episode of the Polite Society Podcast.  So for Charlie Foxtrot, Gary, Rob, John, Rachel and Susan,

(Paul, stop talking now)

 

Rob: Until the next time…

Gary: stay safe,

Susan: be aware,

Paul: and we’ll see you down the road.

 

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