Episode 215 – John Richardson and Frank Fiamingo

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Intro- Everyone knows an armed society is a polite society. This is the Polite Society Podcast where we support and report on civilian self-defense.

Paul: Welcome to the polite society podcast recorded on Wednesday, the 26th of February 2014. I’m Paul Lathrop
Rob: I’m Rob Morse and we interviewed Frank Fiamingo from the New Jersey Second Amendment Society.
John: I’m John Richardson from the Blog “No Lawyers, only Guns and Money”. We have our usual firearms news and defensive gun use. So climb aboard
Paul: strap in
Rob: And hang on! Episode 215 of the Polite Society Podcast starts right now.
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Seg 1
Personal news from each participant
Paul-
Rob- Shopping for a concealed carry gun in California. The Glock 17 looks good. As I was shopping I found that the Ruger SR 22 is now off list in California. The Ruger SR9 is going off list in a few months. This is becoming the revolver state! The lines are crazy! I was at a gun store where you had to take a number to ask a question. (Now serving number 39.)
John?
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Paul- Texas has a lot of political conventions. It has conventions at the Precinct, County and State level, and Texas has 254 counties! These conventions lead up to the primary vote. Our regular co-host Rachel Malone is conducting training sessions in advance of these conventions and urging second amendment activists to attend. Someone has to expose the record of lazy legislators. There are also petitions to allow open carry and extend where licence holders may carry. Thank you, Rachel. Please give her a hand if you’re in Texas, and contact her at Texas Firearms Freedom .com

John- More news from Texas.  The citizens of Texas open carry the only way they can.  A group of civil rights activists openly carried their long arms last month when two of them were arrested, but not charged.  That irritated these honest gun owners.  Last week they had an open carry march in Andrews, Texas, and participation doubled in size to 80 participants.  No arrests were reported this time.

 

Rob- Staying out west, we have an update to these two stories from New Mexico that we covered a few months back, and here is a “thank you” to Mick who sent them in.

First, the good news out of New Mexico is that several gun control bills failed to pass out of the state legislature.  Some made it out of committee on party line votes, but they lacked the backing to pass both houses.  This includes a bill to block concealed carry in the capital.

Paul- The second New Mexico story is about 64-year-old David Eckert who was stopped by the Demming Police.  Eckert was taken to a local hospital and subject to an involuntary cavity search and x-ray to see if he was transporting drugs.  No evidence was ever found of drugs or any other illegal activity.  The police and sheriff departments involved have agreed to pay Eckert 1.6 million dollars.  The suit against the Gila Regional Medical Center has not been settled.  Unfortunately, several other citizens were treated this way, and no discipline or termination of the officers has not been made public.

John- You may remember an earlier report about two police officers who were holding down a mentally disturbed 90 pound high school student they had just tazed.  That is when a Southport, North Carolina detective stepped between the officers and killed the teenager with a single shot to the chest.  District Attorney Jon David convened a grand jury.  The grand jury indicted detective Byron Vassey on charges of voluntary manslaughter and bail was set at 50 thousand dollars.  District Attorney David said, “After I reviewed the case I found that a crime almost certainly took place.  It was a ‘bad shoot’ and a grand jury agreed.”  Detective Vassey has been suspended without pay.

Rob- That news you just read from North Carolina belongs in our NOT A Defensive Gun Use column!

Paul- We took this news item from our Stupid Government File, Washington DC prosecutors rested their case against against Mark Witaschek.  (WHIT-A-SHEK) Witaschek is charged with having a misfired shotgun shell in his DC apartment.  He was prosecuted under DC’s laws outlawing all ammunition components unless they fit a gun you’ve previously registered in the district.  Witaschek keeps his guns in Virginia.  Spokesman for the DC attorney general claimed  the dud-shotgun shell was technically operational and that Witaschek was prosecuted because he posed an ongoing and serious danger to the public.  Despite that claim, the DC prosecutors downgraded charges against Witaschek to avoid a jury trial.  Appearing before a judge, Witaschek still faces thousands of dollars in fines, hundreds of thousands of dollars in legal costs, and six months in jail.

John- But that doesn’t deserve a jury trial?
Rob- I know why they are prosecuting Witaschek. Most of the evidence in the case was suppressed because the police did not have a warrant for their earlier no-knock raid. DC continues to prosecute him in the hope they can get him convicted of any crime so the city can use that conviction to stop Witaschek from suing the city for unlawful entry. I hope the city fails and pays.
John- The Stupid Government file is bulging these days.

Rob- San Diego Sheriff Bill Gore has a schedule extending past September for the initial interviews for concealed carry licenses. Orange County is taking applications for November. They delay the “initial interview” since California law (Penal Code 26205) requires that permits must be processed within 90 days. The waiting list will get longer, and Sheriff Gore leaves citizens at risk while he fumbles.

Just this week, a masked gunman robbed a San Ysidro hotel at gunpoint Monday night. He struck the night clerk and threatened him with a handgun. In another part of San Diego, a masked man threatened the gas station clerk with a gun and demanded cash. He fled on foot with an undisclosed amount of money. There are another 180 violent crimes in San Diego each day, and the Sheriff tells us to wait.

John- There are still 30 violent crimes each day in the richest Los Angeles suburbs, and interim Sheriff John L. Scott thinks that is acceptable. Scott will wait until the courts force him to issue permits for armed self-defense in public.

Paul- There is another California story in store.
Rob: Of course there is. There is stupid, and there is California Stupid.

Someone invented what they call a “smart gun.”  Sometimes the gun recognizes when it is close to an electronic watch, and it will let you fire it when you’re close to this watch.  Sometimes it won’t.  That is why the police don’t want it.  California requires that we use smart guns despite the fact they don’t work.

New Jersey has similar laws.  They claim that a police officer should use “smart guns” so their weapon can’t be used against them, but the New Jersey police are not that stupid.  Yes, the requirement is being appealed to the courts, but the courts are weak protection of our rights at best.

Paul- I thought the police were citizens.  No?

Rob- Is it an accident that they require us to use a gun that doesn’t work, or is it on purpose?

John- California Stupid could be coming to a legislature near you.

Rob- Oh, like microstamping?

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Paul – Connecticut officials have a problem on their hands.  Some Connecticut gun owners registered their firearms as required by new laws.  Some missed the deadline.  Now Connecticut has told the gun owners who filed late to get rid of their unregistered firearms.  So far state officials have ignored the 90 percent of Connecticut gun owners who did not register their guns.  Are law enforcement officers going to start kicking in doors?  Mike Vanderbough of the Blog Sipsy Street has posted the names, addresses and photographs of the legislators who passed the latest anti-gun bills.

Y’all stay safe out there.

John- Some lawmakers are smarter than others.  A concealed carry holder in Michigan is usually prohibited from carrying at schools, churches, sporting events and restaurants that serve alcohol.  A bill introduced by Michigan representative Tim Kelly gives permission to carry in those prohibited places to victims of domestic violence and stalking.  The bill is HB 5355.  Quoting Kelly, “Anyone who needs to take out a restraining order to protect themselves from violent crimes like domestic violence should be given the same rights as those who work with violent criminals.  The unfortunate reality is that some violent offenders.. take advantage of a gun-free zone to inflict further pain on the victim.”

Rob: Yep, that makes Tim Kelly smarter than my California legislators.

Rob- Ukraine’s Interior Minister, Vitaliy Zakharchenko (ZAK HAR SHEN KO), said the use of automatic weapons and long range rifles against unarmed civilians in Kiev was “in line with the law”.  That attitude by a government official explains why Ukraine’s citizens would not back down and recently overthrew their government.  My thought has always been that the individuals right to own a weapon ought only to be limited by their financial situation.  You should be able to own anything you can afford all the way from a 10-22 to an F-22.  Finland allows citizens to own their own anti-tank guns.

John- Now that they deposed Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych (YAN UH KO VITCH) and are seeking him for warcrimes,  the Ukraine Gun Owners Association wants changes to Ukrainian constitution.  They said they will work on amendments which would provide an unconditional right for Ukrainian citizens to bear arms.  Over 70 people died during protests this last week, and amateur videos showed snipers shooting at unarmed protesters.

Quotes from the protesters,
“People should have the right to bear arms, which will be put in written into the Constitution.”
“Authorities should not, and will not, be stronger than the people!”
“Armed people are treated with respect!”
Paul : These Ukrainians figured out why we have a second amendment here in the US.

Rob: I’ve always wondered what a trained SWAT sniper would do if he saw police shooting first aid worker and other civilians.

Paul: Our Gun Quote today is in honor of Ukraine and Venezuela- ”They tell us that we are weak and unable to cope with so formidable an adversary. But when shall we be stronger? Will it be when we are totally disarmed, and when a British guard shall be stationed in every house? Three million people, armed in the holy cause of liberty, are invincible by any force which our enemy can send against us.”
~Patrick Henry
Hang on everybody, we’ll be right back after this

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Rob- DGU- A Cincinnati dog owner was trying to retrieve her dog when the dog attacked the owner’s friend.  A nearby postman tried to get the dog to let go but was unsuccessful.  A stranger walked by, drew his firearm, and killed the dog.  The victim was bitten on her arms and legs.  She returned home after a few hours of medical treatment.  The unidentified stranger kept walking.
The dog’s owner said the man who shot her dog did the right thing.  Police said the man who shot the dog didn’t do anything wrong and would not be charged with a crime.
Rob: Doing the same thing in Washington DC makes you a criminal.

Paul DGU- Detroit has two legged predators.  A Detroit woman arrived home just after midnight.  Two carjackers pointed a gun at her head as she walked to her front door.  She drew her own gun and shot the gunman seven times.  He died at the scene.
About 90 minutes later a second pair of robbers burst into a home and that homeowner killed one of them.  The second criminal escaped.

As of Sunday morning, the score is
Detroit gun owners -2
Detroit criminals- zero

John DGU- A burglar broke a window to enter a Dyersburg, Tennessee apartment, but got more than he intended.  Hearing his apartment being broken into, the unnamed resident fired a single shot hitting thirty year old David Miles Junior in the groin.  Police found Mr. Miles a short distance from the apartment complex, the same complex where he is also lived.  Miles was transported to a Memphis hospital where he was treated for the non-life threatening gunshot wound and released into police custody.  Miles is now charged with aggravated burglary, but he also has pending domestic violence charges.

Another apartment resident said it was a good example for others, “Don’t break into houses, because you could get shot like that.” The District Attorney’s office said charges would not be filed against the resident who defended his home.

Rob DGU- A homeowner is safe and an armed robber is in jail.  A homeowner in western Washington was in his garage with a friend working on a car.  That is when two masked men entered the garage and tried to rob them at gunpoint.  The homeowner’s friend retrieved a gun from his car and shot one of the robbers.  The other thief fled.  After police arrived, the wounded criminal was transported to a local medical center with serious injuries.

Paul DGU- An 11-year-old girl shot a cougar that followed her 14-year-old brother to their home in north-central Washington.  The female cougar was about 4 years old and weighed about 50 pounds, or half of what it should weigh.  It was the third cougar killed in a week in the area just outside Twisp.
The children’s father, Tom White, had chased the cougar away from their calves twice before. The next day, his son went out to feed the dogs and was returning home when the cougar followed to the door. The 11 year old had a hunting tag to shoot the cougar.

We have the links to each of our news and defensive gun use articles at Polite Society Podcast.com if you want to share them with a friend.

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Paul: The Polite Society download app is out on Amazon for Android and the I-phone app is in I-tunes.  They are located by our old name, Politcs and guns.  Hot links are in our show notes.

Rob: We’re experimenting with the show all the time.  Please send us an e-mail to tell us what you like or dislike.  You can contact the show by e-mail.  Paul@politics and guns.com, Rachel, Rob, Susan, or Onair to reach all of us.  Call 605-215-1438605-215-1438 to hear your voice on the air!

Paul: That’s 605- 215- 1438605- 215- 1438

Paul: Roadgunner’s Mag 40 class in Conway, Arkansas at Shoot House USA is scheduled for May 15th thru 18th 2014 you can register here.

John: Also please check out Kathy Jackson’s Cornered Cat training classes. Her next class is at Nighthawk Custom Training Academy in Centerton Arkansas on March 1st and 2nd.

John: Rob do you have any new posts from your SlowFacts blog you want to mention?

Rob: I posted an article about armed school staff called “A Good Teacher with a Gun”.  Did you know that Connecticut school boards can allow armed staff in schools?  They didn’t, and Sandy Hook teachers died fighting with their bare hands.  Let’s give them the tools they need.  That is at SlowFacts.wordpress.com

Paul: Also please check out the shooters club by Bob Mayne and Ben Branam.  For $75.00 a year, $6.25 a month, you get 24/7 access to some fantastic training and audio podcasts that you can’t get anywhere else.

Robl: Listen to other podcasts on thethe Crusader Podcast Network, and check out http://www.ahib.us/  That’s Almost Heaven Internet Broadcasting out of Bayard BAY-ARD, West Virginia.  They stream the Polite Society Podcast from 7 to 9 am weekdays!

John: Join the National Rifle Association, Second Amendment Foundation, Gun Owners of America and Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership.  Joining two makes you a hero.  Supporting all four makes you a super hero.  Not belonging to any of them means we won’t loan you any ammunition.

Paul: Join your local civil rights group like the New Jersey Second Amendment Society, Arizona Citizens Defense League, Gun Owners of California, Connecticut Citizens Defense League, Florida Carry, Georgia Carry, Georgia Gun Owners, Illinois Carry, Michigan Gun Owners , Michigan Open Carry,

Rob: and Michigan Coalition for Responsible Gun Owners, Minnesota Gun Owners Civil Rights Alliance, Texas Firearms Freedom, Texas State Rifle Association. Tennessee Firearms Association and the West Virginia Citizens Defense League.

 

John; add Grass Roots North Carolina, and since the Canadians are listening, join C S A and N F A.

Paul: That wraps up another episode of the Polite Society Podcast. Until the mid-week show…
Rob: stay safe,
John: be aware,
Paul: and we’ll see you down the road.
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Episode 214 – Jim Irvine

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Intro- Everyone knows an armed society is a polite society. This is the Polite Society Podcast where we support and report on civilian self-defense.

Paul: Welcome to the polite society podcast recorded on Saturday, the 22nd of February, 2014. I’m Paul Lathrop
Rachel: I’m Rachel Malone and on tonights show we talked with Jim Irvine of Buckeye Firearms about training teachers for self-defense
Rob: I’m Rob and my sheriff is in the news, so we’ll talk about NEWS and DGUS
Rachel: so climb aboard
Rob:strap in
Paul: And hang on! Episode 214 of the Polite Society Podcast starts right now.
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Seg 1 Personal news from each participant
Rachel: I’m in Oklahoma. Couldn’t find spices at Walmart, but can open carry down the street and go shopping.  I put on some training classes for the Texas party conventions. Texas has conventions at the local, district and state level. Not much sleep.
Rob: I introduced a friend of the family to firearms. We did a touch and ask session yesterday, and we took her to the range today. I was looking to rent a carry gun at the range, but the range selection was lame.
Paul: I’ve been sick. Tomorrow I get to watch the Datona 500. I’m a big motor racing fan.  Trying to get well.  Carrying now.

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Paul-A Republican proposal to repeal an antiquated law on out-of-state rifle and shotgun purchases has been approved unanimously by the Colorado Senate. The bill would undo a 1969 law that says Coloradans may purchase, but not take possession of, a shotgun or rifle unless they buy it in Colorado or a contiguous state.  Welcome, Colorado, to the 1990s and the age of the internet.

Rachel-Connecticut State law enforcement officials are now in the difficult position of dealing with one of the most widely ignored and despised laws since Prohibition.  By law, Connecticut will have to find space to imprison 300,000 residents for the next five years for disobeying a law that will not reduce crime.  Connecticut’s 15 prisons currently hold 16,839 behind bars at an annual cost of $620 million. Full compliance with Connecticut’s new gun laws means their prison costs would exceed the entire state budget.  It is hard to respect the law when the legislature disrespects the citizens.

Rob-We covered this self-defense case in our last episode, but Detroit Police Chief James Craig commented on the way a Detroit mother protected herself from three intruders who kicked in her back door.  The Chief acknowledging the mother gave a verbal warning prior to firing the weapon. Quote, “She protected herself and her young children. The victim did nothing at all wrong.  Even after the victim advises the suspects that she was armed, they continued an aggressive attempt to enter her home.”

Thank you, Chief Craig.

Paul- We reported earlier that Minnesota police challenged the NFL’s ban on firearms in their stadiums, their offices and their training areas.  Texas is going a step further and saying that the NFL’s regulations don’t apply in Texas.  Texas state law states that so long as off-duty law enforcement officers check in at specific gates and let stadium employees know where they’ll be sitting, they are allowed to carry a firearm.  Mac Tristan, president of the Texas Police Association, said the rules requiring off-duty police officers to inform stadium employees as to their whereabouts makes sense.

Rachel-County commissioners in Clark County, Washington requested a new policy allowing county employees to carry concealed weapons. The county’s current policy prohibits employees from bringing concealed firearms to work, even if they have a permit to carry in public. Other people, including elected officials and the public, are exempt from the policy and may bring weapons into some county buildings. Commissioners said loosening the county’s prohibition on employees carrying concealed guns would deter acts of workplace violence and ensure equal rights.
http://seattletimes.com/html/localnews/2022961874_clarkcountygunsxml.html?syndication=rss

Rob-In the “this is starting to get old” file, Guns Save Life tells us that a Chicago area school suspended an 11 year old boy after he voluntarily turned in his non-functioning toy gun to school officials. The toy was forgotten in his jacket pocket and he was subjected to intense questioning by school security and threats while his mother was not present.

Paul- Some school officials ASK children to turn in toy guns at schools. Which is it? Do children comply with the rules.. or is the toy gun merely a pretext to criticize a young child?

Paul: Gun Quotes
If you can’t trust citizens with freedom, then you sure can’t trust the government with power.
Hang on everybody, we’ll be right back after this

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Seg 3 Interview with Jim Irvine, Chairman of Buckeye Firearms Association where we discuss training teachers for armed defense.

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I learned a lot from Jim. As he said, this is not about guns. This is about saving children’s lives.No one cares how safe the school is, even if it is safe compared to other locations. The number one cause of injury in our schools is violence, not accidents. If the number one cause of injury and death was drowning then there is no question we would teach swimming and have life guards.

Rachel: DGU- A burglar remains in critical condition after he was shot by a business owner after breaking into an automotive repair shop in Beltsville, Maryland. Deryck Nedd forced his way into the shop around 11:20 p.m. He was confronted by the owner and shot during a confrontation inside the repair shop office. The burglar fled and crashed his car a short distance away. He is expected to survive. http://washington.cbslocal.com/2014/02/19/man-shot-breaking-into-business-in-beltsville/

Rob: DGU- A Jennings County, Indiana Grandmother shot a 28 year old man in the leg Saturday after she found him in her 16-year-old granddaughter’s bedroom.  Daniel Sidwell was taken to St. Vincent Hospital in Indianapolis for treatment of a gunshot wound to his right ankle after the incident.  The Grandmother was not charged, thought the case is not closed.

The guy is alive, so I think Grandma showed considerable restraint. http://www.therepublic.com/view/local_story/Woman-shoots-man-in-Jennings-C_1392777892

Paul: DGU- An un-named suspect tried to break into an East San Jose, California home and fired shots at the homeowner.  That is when the homeowner armed himself and returned fire.  Two people were seen getting into a vehicle and driving away.  A short time later a man was dropped off at an area hospital with at least one gunshot wound and declared dead. http://www.mercurynews.com/bay-area-news/ci_25197380/san-jose-shooting-leaves-one-dead-police-say

Rachel: TAMPA — Ivette Ros is a the 37-year-old Tampa resident, a single mother of three children, and a bank manager.  At least she was.  Wells Fargo fired her for carrying her firearm to work.  Ros has filed a lawsuit in circuit court against Wells Fargo Bank, which she said fired her last year from her job as manager at the bank’s Oldsmar branch. Her lawsuit says the firing violated her constitutional right to carry arms and asks for monetary damages and attorney fees. http://tbo.com/news/crime/bank-manager-fired-after-carrying-gun-into-work-files-suit-20140221/

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Rachel:  We have the links to each of our news and defensive gun use articles at Polite Society Podcast.com if you want to share them with a friend.

paul: Listener e-mail discussion

Greg From Bremmerton sent in a story tells the story of a Texas voter who was turned away from early voting polls because he was wearing a pro-2nd Amendment t-shirt. The t-shirt, which had the slogan “The 2nd Amendment – America’s original Homeland Security was deemed to be electioneering. Electioneering is promoting a particular candidate or issue within a specified distance of a polling place.

Rob: The Polite Society download app is out on Amazon for Android and the I-phone app is in I-tunes.  They are located by our old name, Politcs and guns.  Hot links are in our show notes.

Rachel: We’re experimenting with the show all the time.  Please send us an e-mail to tell us what you like or dislike.  You can contact the show by e-mail.  Paul@politics and guns.com, Rachel, Rob, Susan, or Onair to reach all of us.  Call 605-215-1438605-215-1438 to hear your voice on the air!

Rob: That’s 605- 215- 1438605- 215- 1438

Paul: Roadgunner’s Mag 40 class in Conway, Arkansas at Shoot House USA is scheduled for May 15th thru 18th 2014 you can register here.

Rob: Also please check out Kathy Jackson’s Cornered Cat training classes. Her next class is at Nighthawk Custom Training Academy in Centerton Arkansas in early March.

Rachel:, do you have any new posts from your SlowFacts blog you want to mention?

Rob: I do.  The San Diego Union Tribune reports that San Diego Sheriff Bill Gore told his Board of Supervisors he will not appeal the recent ninth circuit court ruling.  The court  ruling established self-defense as sufficient cause to issue a concealed carry permit.  Sheriff Gore’s decision does not mean the case will not be appealed.  It means that San Diego won’t do so.  A judge on the circuit court could do so, but that is unlikely.

District of the Ninth Circuit Court

The ninth circuit district covers the western US and Hawaii and Alaska.  Anti-gun legislators outside the ninth circuit district don’t want the Peruta v. Gore case to rise to the Supreme Court.  This is because of the prejudicial nature of the Sheriff’s prior decisions and because of the thorough analysis by the three judge panel of the ninth circuit court.

This is good news for the residents of California, Hawaii and Guam.  Some California counties like Orange County have already changed their carry license policy.  San Diego will wait until the court ruling is finalized.   Because the decision was not appealed to the Supreme Court, it offers cold comfort to gun owners in New Jersey and Maryland.

Paul: Also please check out the shooters club by Bob Mayne and Ben Branam.  For $75.00 a year, $6.25 a month, you get 24/7 access to some fantastic training and audio podcasts that you can’t get anywhere else.

Rachel: Listen to other podcasts on thethe Crusader Podcast Network, and check out http://www.ahib.us/  That’s Almost Heaven Internet Broadcasting out of Bayard BAY-ARD, West Virginia.  They stream the Polite Society Podcast from 7 to 9 am weekdays!

Rob: Join the National Rifle Association, Second Amendment Foundation, Gun Owners of America and Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership.  Joining two makes you a hero.  Supporting all four makes you a super hero.  Not belonging to any of them means we won’t loan you any ammunition.

Paul: Join your local civil rights group like the New Jersey Second Amendment Society, Arizona Citizens Defense League, Gun Owners of California, Connecticut Citizens Defense League, Florida Carry, Georgia Carry, Georgia Gun Owners, Illinois Carry, Michigan Gun Owners , Michigan Open Carry,

Rachel: and Michigan Coalition for Responsible Gun Owners, Minnesota Gun Owners Civil Rights Alliance, Texas Firearms Freedom, Texas State Rifle Association. Tennessee Firearms Association and the West Virginia Citizens Defense League.

Rob: since the Canadians are listening CSA and NFA

Paul: That wraps up another episode of the Polite Society Podcast. Until the mid-week show…
Rob: stay safe,
Rachel: be aware,
Paul: and we’ll see you down the road.

Episode 213 – Valinda Rowe and Joe Chetwood

Stinger- You’re listening to the Polite Society Podcast.
Intro- Everyone knows an armed society is a polite society. This is the Polite Society Podcast where we support and report on civilian self-defense.

Paul: Welcome to the polite society podcast recorded on Wednesday, the 19th of Feburary, 2014. I’m Paul Lathrop
Rob: I’m Rob Morse, and on tonights show we have an Interview with Valinda Rowe of Illinois Carry, as well as a large collection of firearms news and defensive gun use.
Paul: so climb aboard
Rob:strap in
Paul: And hang on! Episode 213 the Polite Society Podcast starts right now.
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Seg 1
Personal news from each participant

Before we go to break I have a bit of news, the Kathy Jackson class coming up on March 1st and 2nd in Centerton Arkansas is now a co-ed class! A listener got in touch with me yesterday and brought that to my attention, I called Kathy and confirmed it. So if you can get there in a week and a half get your seat now!

Also I want to put this out there. For those that are attending the Roadgunner MAG 40 class in May, I would like to see if I can “room” with someone and save a little bit of money. If you are going to be attending the class and would like to share a room to help alleviate some of the costs please email me at Paul@politicsandguns.com.

Rob: Hmm.  Anyone want a non-smoking room mate at the NRA convention?

Also I want to say thank you to Mark Vanderberg of the Gun Rights Radio Network.  Word came down today that for various reasons Mark is shutting down GRRN for good on the 28th of this month. When I started this show it was my intent from the beginning to get on the network, and I have made a lot of good friends on GRRN . While it was predictable that GRRN would eventually go away it still saddens me to see it go.

As well one of my shows that I catch every time it is released is going away, the Bar Stool Discussion with Mark and Doc Wesson is not going to continue and will go away when the network shuts down.

I want to say a personal thank you to Mark Vanderberg. He is a large part of the reason that the show has turned out the way it has. In the early days of the show Mark taught me a lot about podcasting and has always been just a phone call away if I needed help or advice.. or just to gripe. Mark isn’t going anywhere, he just decided that it is time for a change. I for one am a little sad to see him leave podcasting and I will miss his presence here.

Mark and Doc can come on the show anytime!
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Paul-There are four bits of good news from the Oklahoma house.  One, the judiciary committee approved bills allowing citizens with licensed carry permits to carry in the state capital.  Two, they allow licensed carry holders to leave their firearm locked in their car in elementary and secondary school parking lots.  Three, they authorized state colleges, universities and technology centers to establish general policies for permit holders to bring weapons on campus rather than requiring written permission for each individual.  Four, a separate House committee made it illegal for any federal employee or agent to enforce any federal firearms regulations covering firearms, firearm accessories, or ammunition that is manufactured in Oklahoma and remains within the state’s borders.

Rob: I really wish I’d received that job offer in Tulsa.

Rob-The city of Erie, Pennsylvania can’t enforce a 38-year-old ordinance that banned firearms in city parks.  The ordinance was overturned by the state Commonwealth Court and the city did not appeal the ruling.  Now the city has to dismiss fines and convictions against eight local gun-rights activists found guilty of violating the ordinance at a rally in Perry Square last June.

Paul- Illinois lawmakers are already changing the state’s 7-month-old concealed-carry law.  This is only weeks before even the first batch of permits are sent out to approved applicants. Several proposed bills would roll back restrictions to Illinois strict carry law.  Bills would allow concealed carry in public parks, on Cook County Forest Preserve lands and on public transportation.

Senator Kyle McCarter said he wants to allow concealed firearms in public transit systems because otherwise, in high-crime areas, criminals could easily target citizens they know aren’t carrying guns. In addition to these bills, some anti rights bills have been introduced.

Illinois Gun Owners Lobby Day is coming up soon, and Valinda Rowe’s interview will be running later in the show. If you live, work or travel through Illinois, then we encourage you to be at IGOLD.

Rob- From New Jersey, gun-control advocates frequently use scare tactics to mislead the public into supporting laws that unnecessarily restrict Second Amendment rights. The most stringent firearms laws in the country don’t satisfy the rabid activists there. They are pushing to lower the legal magazine size from 15 to 10. “Our top priority is a 10-round limit on magazine size,”  said Bryan Miller, executive director of Heeding God’s Call. The group’s sole purpose is to push for more gun control. Its primary tactic is to hold “prayer vigils” outside firearms stores. Mr. Miller claims, “Nobody needs a 15-round ammunition magazine unless they are a domestic terrorist or a gangster.”  However, Mr. Miller neglected to mention that virtually all law enforcement uses firearms with more than 10 rounds.

If this magazine restriction is such a good idea, then let’s start with the state police, the legislative security details, and local sheriff’s deputies.  Better yet, let the law enforcement officers go back to 6 shot revolvers.  Why would anyone need more than six shots?…  Yeah, just as I thought.

In New York, a union official said Saturday the Remington Arms Co.’s decision to open a manufacturing plant in Alabama does not bode well for Ilion, and he’s blaming New York’s SAFE Act restrictions on assault weapons. “It can’t be good,” said Fran Madore, president of United Mine Workers Local 717, which represents 1,180 of the 1,300 Remington employees in Ilion. “How can it be good?”Madore said plant officials told him they wanted to meet with him Monday. They did not say what they wanted to talk about, but Madore said he assumes it will be about the company’s reported plans to open a 500,000-square-foot manufacturing plant in Huntsville, Ala… Madore said he’s worried the company will move jobs out of Ilion, the Herkimer County village where the company has been making firearms since 1816.

-A failing newspaper in Connecticut called for state police to prosecute and incarcerate the hundreds of thousands of gun owners who refused to register their firearms and ammunition magazines.  This is in a state that already releases violent criminals due to prison overcrowding.  Our colleague David Codrea suggests Connecticut gun owners give the advertisers of the Hartford Courant a phone call and share their low opinion of the papers liberal editorials.  Dear listeners, there are many more of us than there are of them, so it is time Connecticut gun owners woke up and made themselves heard.
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Paul- Alabama Senator Scott Beason proposed a bill to allow drivers in Alabama to carry a loaded firearm in their car without a carry license.  Alabama currently permits unloaded carry in cars, but Senator Beason’s bill extends the castle doctrine to a person’s automobile — the thought being that you may have nowhere to retreat if you’re attacked in your car.

Rob -In the last step of the legislative process, the Virginia State Senate repealed a 19th Century Blue Law that outlawed hunting on Sunday. The House of Delegates passed the bill in January, but the bill now goes to Gov. Terry McAuliffe to be signed into law. The legislation allows Sunday hunting on private land during designated hunting seasons by hunters who have the written permission of landowners.

Why are states involved with this in the first place?

-Georgia lawmakers are discussing a change in airport regulations.  Concealed carry license holders would receive a warning and be asked to leave the secure area of the airport if they approach airport security screening with an undeclared firearm in their luggage.  One out of a million passengers at Atlanta’s Hartsfield airport forgets they have a firearm with them.  Airport security officials have arrested both politicians and clergy members who were then charged with a misdemeanor.  Former speaker of the State House, Terry Coleman, was arrested last year when security screeners found a pistol in his briefcase.  The bill probably won’t pass.. without your help.

You and I know where our guns are.  What about every round and shell casing?  How about an empty magazine you left in your briefcase if you carry at work?

-Also in Georgia a House bill which would expand the places where licensed individuals can carry a gun.  House Bill 875 passed after an emotional debate.  The vote was 119 to 56. The bill now goes to the Georgia Senate.  The bill applies to people over 21 years of age with a Georgia weapons license.  They would be allowed to carry in churches and bars that are not posted.  They could also carry in airports up to the security checkpoint and some public buildings with no security checkpoint. College campuses are not  included, but a weapons license holder caught with a gun on campus would only be subject to up to a $100 fine with no jail time. The bill also allows public school system to train and arm any staff members who volunteers. It also prohibits compiling and releasing a list of weapons license holders as some other states have done.

I wish I lived in Georgia so I could call my state senator.

-Florida respects gun owners.  That doesn’t stop south Florida cities from asking the state to define requirements for backyard gun ranges.  State law says you can fire from your backyard so long as the activity is not negligent or reckless.  There are no limits specifying distance from a property line, distance from a school or hours of operation.

-Since the Newtown tragedy, 7 states allow teachers to arm themselves and more are considering it this year.  Buckeye Firearms says that armed school staff are making a significant difference in keeping our schools safe. Buckeye Firearms spent $140,000 in the past year on training 150 teachers and other school officials, putting each of them through a 3 day training course.   According to Jim Irvine, President of Buckeye Firearms over 20 schools in the state currently have armed staff.  Great job Ohio and Buckeye Firearms!

Can other states learn from them before the next school tragedy?

-California is a strange state.  Eight Los Angeles police officers will not be disciplined after they fired 103 rounds at two unarmed women who were delivering newspapers from their car.  One of the officers thought the sound of the papers hitting the driveway was a gunshot, and then the other officers joined in the assault.  The unarmed mother and daughter received 4.2 million dollars from the Los Angeles taxpayers.  That is about 41 thousand dollars per shot.

Rob- Yep, there are laws for LA cops and there are separate laws for you and me.

Rob- In Texas it looks like Democrats are breaking the law in an attempt to turn the state blue. According to Breitbart when the Democrats sign up a new voter they keep that voters information, including telephone number and then make sure that on election day that that person gets out to vote. That in and of itself doesn’t sound too bad right? Except that that is against Texas election laws.

Paul -Two Minnesota police organizations have sued the National Football League, claiming that a policy prohibiting guns in football stadiums violates a state law by infringing on the right of off-duty police to carry weapons.  Since last September, NFL policy prohibits firearms in any league facilities, including team offices and practice facilities as well as stadiums. The only exceptions are for law enforcement officers that are specifically assigned to work at NFL games.  The lawsuit by the Minnesota Police and Peace Officers Association and Police Officers Federation of Minneapolis claims the NFL policy puts members of the public at an unnecessary risk by prohibiting licensed, off-duty police officers from carrying their weapons inside stadiums and parking lots.

Can you think of the last time an off duty police officer started a gunfights at an NFL game?

Rob: Gun Quotes
When liberty is taken away by force, it can be restored by force. When it is relinquished voluntarily by default, it can never be recovered. — DOROTHY THOMPSON

Paul: Hang on everybody, we’ll be right back after this
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Joe Chetwood, the gun doctor.
Do indirect piston systems help reliability? Only if the gun is unreliable in the first place. A well designed/manufactured firearm doesn’t need it. Some do.
Can you have too much rifling twist in your rifle barrel? Yes. There is an optimum twist rate for each bullet weight.
Can I use button mounts for a sling on a synthetic stock Ruger 10-22. Yes, but it might take some work.
V3 H&K ?? Can I swap out the trigger? There are liability issues. The H&K and FN don’t lend themselves to reliable trigger jobs. Some triggers are afterthoughts.
I’m getting some slop in my RIA 1911 rail to frame fit. Custom guns are tight. Tight guns won’t run in a dirty environment. Don’t worry until you notice a decrease in accuracy.
Can I retrofit a shorter trigger? Yes, you can find a trigger assembly with a shorter shoe.
Torus- PT92AF One out of 20 shots won’t cycle. This could be from low power ammo, a tight fit, try hotter ammo. Have a gunsmith put in a lighter main spring.
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Mosin-Nagant has trouble extracting a fired round. Look at the chamber. Surface roughness can cause the case to bind. Clean really well with a chamber brush before you try to polish the chamber. You could have lacquer buildup from lacquer painted steel case ammo. See a gunsmith if cleaning doesn’t solve the problem.

I took my Beretta 75 to the range. A friend said the front sight was filed down. Can the front sight be replaced?  No. You’d need a new barrel. This is a smaller pistol that Beretta has not made in years.

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DGU A Detroit family was robbed only two weeks ago.  Someone tried again this week, but this time it was caught on video and the Detroit mom was ready with her rifle.  She was home with her two small children when three teenagers kicked in her door Monday night.  She grabbed her firearm and told them to leave because she had a gun.  They said, “no you don’t” and she proved them wrong.  The three ran away after she fired, and one of the intruders dropped his pistol in the snow.  He picked up his pistol and tried to enter the house a second time.  The homeowner fired again and this time the thief stayed away.  All three teenagers were apprehended by police.

The reports indicate she missed twice.  I think she needs some practice because the criminals didn’t get the message the first time.

DGU A Bell County, Texas man faced a pair of burglars early Monday.  22 year old Elijah Wong was awakened by family members at about 2 AM.  They told him that someone was trying to break into their home. The power was cut off as Wong walked to the kitchen.  Someone kicked in the back door and Wong fired twice at the man.  Wong then scared off a second man who was trying to break in through the front door.  Law enforcement found a man in the front yard who had been shot in the arm, and also detained his accomplice.

COP DGU- Well this was a Valentine’s day dinner they won’t forget.  An intoxicated patron at the Aroyo Cafe in Stockton California drew a handgun and threatened to kill everyone.  The restaurant emptied as hundreds of customers flooded out the doors, except for off duty police officer Joe Silva.  Silva is the public affairs officer for the Stockton PD, but this time he was making news rather than sharing it with reporters.  Silva drew his own firearm and arrested the man.. potentially saving dozens of lives.

The patrons at the restaurant were probably disarmed by county law.  Stockton is in San Joaquin County, and is May Issue rather than a Shall issue County.  Thank god for a good man with a gun.

DGU- This is sad news from Florida. A west Palm Beach man came home from lunch and found a young man going through his gun collection.  The juvenile was placing several of the firearms on a blanket to take them from the home.  The juvenile pointed one of the guns at the homeowner who then fought with the juvenile.  The homeowner shot the juvenile several times.  The juvenile was taken to the hospital where he later died.  The young man was on probation at the time of this robbery.

DGU- According to the Pasco County, Florida Sheriff’s Office, a chiropractor acted in a self-defense when he shot a man who came into his office Monday morning.  Jaime Velez brought a gun to the doctor’s office  before a dispute started.  Velez was shot several times by the doctor and the Sheriff’s office considers it self-defense.  Velez is listed in critical but stable condition.

DGU- Earlier this month, an Ossipee, New Hampshire homeowner faced a pair of robbers.  Armed with a knife, James Brooks entered a home and demanded money from the homeowner.  The homeowner grabbed a gun and fired at Brooks and his accomplice.  Brooks was arrested this week after police received tips about his location.  Ossipee police said they have a long history with Brooks, who has faced previous charges in connection with drugs and violent acts.  This time Brooks was charged with burglary, armed robbery, trespass, threatening and reckless driving. He is being held without bail.

A small-caliber pistol in a pocket holster is better than a full-caliber gun in the nightstand.

We have the links to each of our news and defensive gun use articles at Polite Society Podcast.com if you want to share them with a friend.

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Listener e-mail discussion
Greg from Bremmerton wrote in and shared this article: http://www.examiner.com/article/new-playbook-same-goal-masking-gun-control  The gist of the article seems to be that a super PAC is getting together and making a huge push for anti-gun candidates this fall in Washington state. They produced a 90 minute webinar a few days ago on how to push their anti-gun adgenda. Oh yeah, and this should surprise on one, the group is from Washington… Not Washington the state, Washington DC.

Also Greg sent in a DGU story:  Story 1:POULSBO — A man was shot during an argument early Sunday at a Poulsbo, Washington home.  At 3:33AM a.m., Kitsap County Sheriff’s Office patrol deputies and detectives, and a Poulsbo Fire Department medic unit were sent to a home in the 23800 block and found several people there.

A woman had allegedly been sexually assaulted by a man she knew and was taken to Harrison Medical Center in Bremerton by a private party to be examined. In the meantime, the suspect was reportedly shot by another man during an argument about the alleged sexual assault, according to the Sheriff’s Office.

The aid unit took him to Harrison where his injuries aren’t considered life-threatening. The 32-year-old man was charged with third-degree rape yesterday.

Later, A man who was shot early Sunday during a birthday party at a Moorgate Place home was booked into jail Monday on suspicion of second-degree rape.  After the homeowner’s live-in fiancée took the alleged rape victim, a 44-year-old woman, to Harrison Medical Center in Bremerton to be examined, an argument broke out at the home at about 3:30 a.m.

The homeowner, who was much smaller than the rape suspect, felt threatened and shot him with a handgun, which another guest had brought, unloaded and stashed in a safe place, according to Kitsap County sheriff’s spokesman Scott Wilson. The homeowner knew where the gun was and retrieved it when he felt threatened.

Deputies questioned and released the shooter at the home, determining the shooting was justified. The final determination will be up to the county prosecutor. The alleged rapist, a 32-year-old Bremerton man, was taken to Harrison in Bremerton. He’s now in Kitsap County Jail with bail of $100,000.

This story was edited to correct the age of the alleged victim.

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Episode 212 – Joe Kalil and Miguel Gonzalez

Stinger- You’re listening to the Polite Society Podcast.
Intro- Everyone knows an armed society is a polite society. This is the Polite Society Podcast where we support and report on civilian self-defense.

Paul: Welcome to the polite society podcast recorded Sunday, February 16, 2014. I’m Paul Lathrop.
Rob: I’m Rob, and on tonights show we interviewed Joe Kalil who is working on a program to arm and train Kentucky school teachers.
Paul: Rob also interviewed Miguel Gonzalez about violent riots in Venezuela where citizens are disarmed,so climb aboard
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Paul: And hang on! Episode 212 of the Polite Society Podcast starts right now.
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Paul: A three judge panel of the Ninth Circuit Courts affirmed the right of law-abiding citizens to carry handguns for lawful protection in public.  The case was brought because  San Diego Sheriff Bill Gore had some very stringent requirement before he would grant a concealed carry license.  He required that each citizens demonstrate he faced a specific and immediate threat to his life or his application would be rejected.  Some judges agreed with him.  Some did not.

The trial court said the Sheriff knew best.  The Appeals Court said that citizens didn’t need concealed carry because they have open carry.  Then California outlawed Open Carry.

The 9th Circuit Court ruled that self-defense is sufficient cause to issue a license.  In a 2-1 opinion, the judges ruled that the Sheriff’s “good cause” provision violated the Second Amendment.  The district court has 14 days to render its reversal unless Sheriff Gore appeals the decision.

Rob: Of course those requirements don’t apply to lawyers in San Diego County.  Lawyers can get permits.  I’ve spoken with San Diego Sheriff Bill Gore.  I’ve heard him speak several times.  Each time he says he wants to issue CCW permits, but is blocked from doing so by state law.  Now we have hard legal evidence the Sheriff is wrong and that he can issue permits.  If he was telling the truth before, then this decision should be great news for Sheriff Gore.  We will see if he has been lying before and appeals the decision now.

I’ve heard conflicting reports on an appeal and I’ll hold my comments until I have solid news.

Paul: The state of Arizona could impose fines on cities and towns that enforce gun ordinances stricter than the state’s own laws. House Bill 2517, sponsored by Rep. Steve Smith, would impose a civil penalty of up to $5,000 on city and town governments that violate the statute. Smith said he wants the state “to have some teeth” in enforcing the law.  The legislature has repeatedly clarified its preemption over the regulation of both firearms and knives.  Arizona gun owners should call.

-Rob: In Idaho, Senator Marv Hagedorn wrote a bill that would punish law enforcement officials if they helped enforce any new federal firearms restrictions. The 2013 version passed in the Idaho House but died in an Idaho Senate Committee. This year Hagedorn is trying a different strategy by trying to get the bill passed in the Senate before heading to the Idaho House where the bill should have a better chance of passage.

-The Republican majority of the Idaho Senate State Affairs Committee overwhelmingly approved a measure which would allow citizens with Idaho’s enhanced carry license to carry concealed firearms onto public college campuses.  The bill has to go before the House and full Senate.  Some school administrators claimed blood would flow in the streets.. again.

-A vocal group of Indiana parents wants school employees to be able to carry a gun on campus.  Eight parents and community members spoke out to Twin Lakes school board members. They want school staff to be able to carry a concealed firearm on school grounds in order to protect the children in a time of need. However, the board heard a policy that would keep that from happening. The policy states that no school employee, volunteer, or school board member, even if they’re licensed in the state to carry a gun, should possess or handle one on school grounds.

That policy of unilateral disarmament is against the guidance of the best minds studying public violence.  Does the school board have any idea the liability they just assumed?

-Also in Indiana, should a sworn police officer be allowed to carry a gun on school property if he’s working there as a private citizen? A grounds keeper for Concord Community Schools says his status as an Elkhart County reserve officer means he can. But the Concord superintendent says that officer violated school policy and broke the law. On January 28, Rick Ball went into work at Concord. All of the corporation’s schools were closed because of weather, but as a grounds worker he still had to be there. That same day, Ball was involved in a car accident in a school vehicle and that’s when his boss found out Ball was carrying a gun. That supervisor reported the firearm to the school superintendent who met with Ball at the end of the week and told him he would either be fired or forced to resign.  As an Elkhart County Sheriff’s reserve deputy, Ball has a badge and gun and can arrest anyone at anytime. The only thing that makes him different from other deputies is the fact that he’s not paid for any of his service to the department – it’s all volunteer work.

This sounds like anti-gun bigotry to me.

It sounds like the school superintendent has too much time and money on his hands.

-Kansas gun owners would be able to carry a loaded handgun in cars regardless of whether they have a conceal-carry permit if a bill headed to the House floor becomes law. HB2473 would make gun laws uniform throughout the state by preventing local governments from enacting or enforcing regulations. The bill, sponsored by Rep. Jim Howell, R-Derby, passed without opposition in the Federal and State Affairs Committee on Wednesday. Rep. Michael Houser, R-Columbus, offered an amendment – which also passed without opposition – that would make it legal for all Kansans to carry a loaded handgun inside their automobiles. This treats a car as an extension of one’s home.

-Most were expecting an old-time argument with proponents and opponents facing off over New Hampshire House Bill 1589 to require background checks for all sales of firearms.  That never happened.  The House spent an hour-and-a-half in parliamentary maneuvering before finally killing the bill 242 to 118.

The vote wasn’t close.

-Athens County, Ohio Sheriff Pat Kelly made headlines a few weeks ago.  He refused to renew some current concealed handgun license-holders if the license holder had ever been arrested or charged.  The state Attorney General said that is a misapplication of Ohio law, but the Sheriff persists.  Now Sheriff Kelly has been indicted by a grand jury on 25 counts.  The Sheriff claims he is innocent of fraud and misuse of public funds, but by his own criteria, will he turn in his license to carry?

Laws for the Sheriff and different laws for us?

-Vets are being denied gun ownership.  Merely signing your financial affairs over to your spouse while you are deployed is now being used as cause for the VA to declare a veteran “incompetent”.  The VA sent out letters telling vets to turn in their guns and relinquish his 2nd Amendment Rights, or face going to prison.  Some vets have successfully appealed that decision to the FBI to have the unajudicated VA report of incompetence removed from their NICS file.

-The Connecticut Police are quite slow in arresting one of their own.  A Bridgeport police officer who accidentally shot himself in the leg in a crowded bagel shop has been arrested on a gun charge. State police said they charged 55-year-old Juan Santiago of Bridgeport with unlawful discharge of a firearm in connection with the Dec. 17 incident at the Bagel King on Main Street. Troopers say Santiago was sitting with three other Bridgeport officers when he mishandled a pistol that fired a shot [sic] through his left thigh. No one else was injured. Santiago was treated at a hospital. Local firearms owners protested the double standard of how a civilian would be charge with a negligent discharge versus a law enforcement officer.

Laws for them and laws for us?

-Reading, Writing and Firearms Responsibility- Knowing how to handle a gun is a vital part of being a responsible owner.. so a south Georgia technical college is working to make sure people buying guns know how to use them safely. The Southwest Georgia Technical College offers the NRA basic pistol course.  That course includes both classroom and range training for $70. The instructor says more women are signing up for the classes.

Rob: Compare this with Los Angeles area junior colleges where the NRA course was recently forbidden, and with Georgia that wants training to improve firearms safety.  Also note that Georgia does not require training to receive a carry license.

-“There are a lot of untrained people out there,” said former Riverton Police Captain and and gun safety instructor Mark Stone of Riverton, Wyoming. That’s a situation he would like to change.  Wyoming is now a “Constitutional Carry state so residents do not require training requirement to carry firearms or to receive a concealed carry license.  Captain Stone suggests training, and 60 to 65 percent of his students have been women.

I agree with Captain Stone.  Please get training.

-The Wyoming House advanced HB 111 to allow local school boards to permit teachers and other school workers who hold concealed carry permits to carry their guns at schools.

Representative Kendell Kroeker spoke against the bill. He co-sponsored another bill that would allow anyone who holds a concealed carry permit, not only school employees, to bring guns onto school and college campuses.

Toto, I don’t think we’re not in California any more.
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-Wyoming is leading a coalition of 19 states asking the U.S. Supreme Court to let them submit a brief supporting a New Jersey man’s challenge to New Jersey’s concealed weapons law.

The Wyoming Attorney General’s Office, acting as lawyer for Wyoming and the other states, asked the Supreme Court to grant a hearing challenging a recent appeals court ruling.  The brief says Wyoming and the other states are concerned that if the appeals court ruling stands, it could threaten their less-restrictive concealed carry laws.

-An Anne Arundel County Maryland police spokesman said the police department is re-examining its weapons policy. Last week an officer’s car was broken into in front of his home.  The officer noticed a department issued Colt 223 rifle, a Sig Sauer SRT 40-caliber handgun, ammunition and a ballistic vest were missing.

Would you leave your weapons in your car overnight?

-Remington Arms said they are opening a new plant in Alabama.  The existing plant in Ilion (ill-e-on), NY would remain open, but with reduced staff.

I’ll buy Remington equipment again when they close their plants in New York.

Gun Quote of the day- “Foolish liberals who are trying to read the Second Amendment out of the Constitution by claiming it’s not an individual right or that it’s too much of a public safety hazard, don’t see the danger in the big picture. They’re courting disaster by encouraging others to use the same means to eliminate portions of the Constitution they don’t like.” Professor Alan M. Dershowitz

#2 As I have stood in the crosshairs of those who target Second Amendment freedoms, I’ve realized that firearms are not the only issue. No, it’s much, much bigger than that. I’ve come to understand that a cultural war is raging across our land, in which, with Orwellian fervor, certain acceptable thoughts and speech are mandated. — Charlton Heston

We have two interviews for you.  We interviewed Joe Kalil who advocates arming teachers in Kentucky.  Joe is an airline pilot and wants to use the same stringent guidelines used when qualifying armed pilots in a program to arm teachers.  We first heard about Joe from a listener tip.  His site is POST Ky.com

We also interviewed Miguel Gonzalez about violent riots in Venezuela where citizens are disarmed.  The police shoot unarmed protesters and throw opposition politicians in jail.  Miguel is from Venezuela and writes the blog “Gun Free Zone”.

Hang on everybody, we’ll be right back after this
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Segment 4 DGUs
DGU- Houston Police Department Officer J. Johnson was just leaving the movies with his girlfriend, when a sedan pulled up next to them.  One of the the men in the car pointed a handgun at the couple. Officer Johnson drew his concealed firearm and fired several shots at the vehicle.  The vehicle was sped away, but turned up a short time later at an area hospital. Two of the three occupants of the car were treated for non life threatening gunshot wounds and the third person was taken into custody by police. All three suspects are charged with aggravated robbery with a deadly weapon.  The officer and his girlfriend were not harmed.

DGU- The owner of a Rocky Mount North Carolina convenience store shot and wounded one of three armed men who tried to rob his store.  Three men entered Mix Mart at about 9 p.m. Two of the men were armed with handguns while the third suspect attempted to rob the 43-year-old man.  The three suspects fled when the store owner drew his own handgun and fired.  Police soon found an 18 year old shooting victim and flew him to a nearby medical center where he is listed in critical condition.

DGU- Two men were trying to break into a Houston, Texas Smoke Box.  The store was closed, but the manager was still inside.  The manager retrieved a gun and confronted the suspects when he shot one of the suspects in the head.  The suspect was transported to Ben Taub Hospital and the other suspect was taken into custody.

DGU- This is from my friend Jennifer Cruz at the Gun Rights Examiner-
An attempted robbery Sunday morning in Lincolnville, South Carolina ended fatally for the suspect after the 76-year-old intended victim shot him with a .38 revolver.  Charles Petit was walking towards his car when he was confronted by 25-year-old Robert Deziel. It wasn’t the first time that Petit, a jewelry store owner, had been robbed.  Petit was knocked to the ground with Deziel on top of him while the younger Dezel attempted to shock him with a stun gun.  The 76-year old Petit drew his own gun.  Quote, “I shot about three times before I hit him because he had me on the ground trying to tase me.”  Police found the mugger lying on the front of the carport, where he was pronounced dead.

DGU- 28 year old Stephan Aceves (ACE-VEZZ) knocked on a stranger’s house in west Pasco, Washington around 2:30 Friday morning.  One of the occupants is a security guard at a nearby nuclear site.  He retrieved his firearm and shouted for the intruder to go away.  Acevez entered the front of the house and the occupant, fired several shots.  Police found Aceves dead in the front yard.  The guard lived at the home with his girlfriend and young children.

DGU- Neilsson Owens, 41, was shot and arrested after witnesses caught him red handed. Neilsson was caught stealing copper from an apartment complex after witnesses heard some racket coming from the basement.. twice.  they went back the second and found Owens trying to steal the copper. “One of the witnesses had a gun. They were in the process of escorting Owen from underneath the apartment complex and they were in the process of calling the police when Mr. Owens started a struggle and he reached for the gun and that’s when one of the witnesses shot him in the leg,” said Lt. McDuffie. http://fox10tv.com/2014/02/11/suspect-shot-caught-stealing-copper/

We have the links to each of our news and defensive gun use articles at Polite Society Podcast.com if you want to share them with a friend.

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Tips and tricks segment with Kathy Jackson.
Paul: We don’t have any specific emails to talk about this episode, but I do want to talk a little bit about some feedback I have gotten personally about my run for office.
Rob: You might compromise your methods, but not your principles.

Paul: The Polite Society download app is out on Amazon for Android and the I-phone app is in I-tunes.  They are located by our old name, Politcs and guns.  Hot links are in our show notes.
Rob: We’re experimenting with the show all the time.  Please send us an e-mail to tell us what you like or dislike.  You can contact the show by e-mail.  Paul@politics and guns.com, Rachel, Rob, Susan, or Onair to reach all of us.  Call 605-215-1438 to hear your voice on the air!
Paul: That’s 605- 215- 1438

Paul: Roadgunner’s Mag 40 class in Conway, Arkansas at Shoot House USA is scheduled for May 15th thru 18th 2014 you can register here. The shooting portion of the class is full, but there are seats for the Mag 20 classroom still available.

Paul: Rob, do you have any new blog posts you want to mention?
Rob: I commented on the Ninth Circuit decision and Sheriff Gore at my SlowFacts blog

Rob: Please check out the shooters club by Bob Mayne and Ben Branam.  For $75.00 a year, $6.25 a month, you get 24/7 access to some fantastic training and audio podcasts that you can’t get anywhere else. There is also going to be a giveaway in June for Bob’s S&W Shield. All members of the shooters club are automatically entered to win. By joining you do help our show.

Paul: Listen to other podcasts on the Gun Rights Radio Network, the Crusader Podcast Network, and check out http://www.ahib.us/  That’s Almost Heaven Internet Broadcasting out of Bayard BAY-ARD, West Virginia.  They stream the Polite Society Podcast from 7 to 9 am weekdays!

Rob: Join the National Rifle Association, Second Amendment Foundation, Gun Owners of America and Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership.  Joining two makes you a hero.  Supporting all four makes you a super hero.  Not belonging to any of them means we won’t loan you any ammunition.

Paul: Join your local civil rights group like the New Jersey Second Amendment Society, Arizona Citizens Defense League, Connecticut Citizens Defense League, Florida Carry, Georgia Carry, Georgia Gun Owners, Illinois Carry, Michigan Gun Owners , Michigan Open Carry,

Rob: and don’t forget Michigan Coalition for Responsible Gun Owners, Minnesota Gun Owners Civil Rights Alliance, Texas Firearms Freedom, Texas State Rifle Association. Tennessee Firearms Association and the West Virginia Citizens Defense League.

Paul: That wraps up another episode of the Polite Society Podcast. Until the mid-week show…
Rob: stay safe,
Paul: be aware,
Rob: and we’ll see you down the road.
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Episode 211 – Guns for Everyone Colorado

Seg 1 Personal news from each participant

Also please check out Kathy Jackson’s Cornered Cat training classes.  Her next class is at Nighthawk Custom Training Academy in Centerton Arkansas in early March.

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Rachel- Missouri is one step closer to nullification of federal gun laws. The bill not only would prohibit state and local LEOs from enforcing federal gun prohibition, it would allow open carry, it would drop the age you can get a CWP from 21 to 19 and would create state level preemption so that cities and counties couldn’t write their own restrictions. Arizona has a bill that is moving forward that would also nullify federal gun control rules.

-In the no good deed goes unpunished file, a Florida state trooper pulled over a Miami police car doing over 120 MPH (with no lights and siren) she eventually ticketed the off duty officer who claimed he “was late for his off duty job” and the Miami PD officer lost his job. Since then she has found herself a target of a great deal of harassment, including having her drivers license data accessed over 200 times by some 88 officers and having strange cars idling outside her home at all hours. She filed a harassment suit this week, and I hope she is successful.
So, tell me why you think our firearms registrations are secure.

-Here is some good news from Florida. House Bill 209 introduced by Florida Representative Heather Fitzenhagen from Fort Myers would allow storm evacuees to carry a concealed firearm during a mandatory evacuation ordered by the governor.  This applies to those who do not have a Florida Concealed Carry License.   Time for Florida gun owners to make some calls.

Rachel -If at first you don’t succeed, then Georgia gun owners try harder.  Legislators tried to allow concealed carry on campus in previous sessions.  They could not get the bill to a vote on the floor of the legislature.  Even if it passed, the bill would have left churches, libraries, senior centers, swimming pools, town council and zoning meetings off limits to legally armed civilians.

That was until Georgia House Representative Rick Jasperse sponsored bill 875 that decriminalizes gun ownership.  Under this bill, licensed concealed carriers would face a fine up to 100 dollars if caught and prosecuted.  This is at a time when violent criminals are released from jail due to overcrowding.  Georgia gun owners, you need your legislators on your speed dial.

-Concealed weapons permit holders in South Carolina can now carry their weapons into restaurants and bars.  Governor Nikki Haley signed the bill Tuesday morning and it went into effect immediately.  Congratulations South Carolina gun owners.  Now, go get  your CCWs.

Paul -Another member of Illegal Mayor Against Guns has been convicted.  This time it is Tony Mack, the Mayor of Trenton, New Jersey who has been convicted of Fraud. That means prosecutors gathered evidence, he was arrested, charged, tried and convicted by a jury.  On Friday, the mayor of New Jersey’s struggling capital was found guilty of official extortion, conspiracy, attempted extortion, accepting bribes, mail fraud and wire fraud.  He joins a long list of New Jersey mayors, and other Illegal Mayors Against Guns members who were found guilty of corruption in recent years.  But wait, there’s more!

Ray Nagin is another member of Bloomberg’s dwindling group Mayors Against Illegal Guns.  He was also the mayor of New Orleans.  He was convicted on Wednesday of accepting bribes and free trips from contractors in exchange for helping them clinch millions of dollars in city contracts.

I wonder if these two will get their Illegal Mayors Against Guns newsletters in jail?

Rachel- Another crazy day in the crazy state of New York.  Gun  designers re-introduced the AR platform to comply with New York SAFE act laws.  They eliminated the pistol grip and adjustable stock so the gun looks like a skeletonized paintball gun.  Anti- gun groups are shocked and horrified.  If you’re not a gun guy, the AR is a girls gun and much less powerful than most hunting rifles, but that didn’t stop New York legislators from outlawing it.

Maybe that is WHY they outlawed it.

-Colorado Democrats voted party on lines to maintain magazine capacity restrictions.  Hey there.  Just because it doesn’t work doesn’t mean to won’t attract anti-gun campaign contributions from Bloomberg.  The State Judiciary Committee also voted along party lines to prohibit armed teachers in schools. I guess they don’t have the problem of active shooters in Colorado.

What?

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-A Colorado father is being called a hero after defending his home as criminals tried to break in. He grabbed his gun and held the burglars until deputies arrived.  It happened at a home on the east side of Colorado Springs around 9:30 Wednesday morning. Many of the neighbors praised the man for getting the crooks off the street. The homeowner told news sources the burglars were 16 years old.  Podcaster and friend of the show Ken Kowalski reached out to the homeowner for an interview but we’ve yet to hear back from him.

-Mississippi passed some pro-gun laws last year, so local governments in Mississippi started preempting these bills with local restrictions.  Mississippi House Bill 314 gives citizens a way to challenge these local ordinances and holds local officials personally responsible for enacting and enforcing laws that have been deemed illegal by the Attorney General.

The citizens of Mississippi need this protection. The bill is on the House calendar and should come up for a vote on tomorrow February 11, 2014.  Wake up, Mississippi gun owners!

-The National Shooting Sports Federation filed a complaint against California Fish and Game Commissioner Michael Sutton.  Sutton is also the Executive Director of the Audubon Society.   The Audubon Society sponsored Assembly Bill 711 to outlaw lead ammunition for hunting.  The Fish and Game Commission now gets to decide what activities are “hunting” and what activities are not hunting.  The NSSF questioned Commissioner Sutton’s impartiality, to which the Commissioner repeatedly replied, “No comment.”

The fix is in against California gun owners.

– President Obama’s nominee as Surgeon General has some history.  Some anti-gun history.   Dr. Vivek Murthy is the 36-year-old president and co-founder of Doctors for America, a group that advocates for Obamacare and gun control laws.  As Surgeon General, Dr Vivek could call all firearms dangerous devices and a public health hazard.  The doctor is facing Senate approval in upcoming weeks.  Who in the Senate will stop him?

Hey, did we ask gun owners to make any calls yet?

Gun Quotes from the famous instructor at Thunder Ranch, Clint Smith. “You cannot save the planet. You may be able to save yourself and your family.”

We’ll be right back after this
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Seg 3 Interview with Guns for Everyone Colorado.  They provide free firearms instruction.
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Segment 4 DGUs

Rachel: DGU #1 An off duty Chicago LEO was robbed at gunpoint this week. One young male approached the LEO with gun drawn and demanded money. Two other young males approached, one flanked (moved to the side of) the LEO and another opened the passenger side door of the car that the LEO was refueling. As the victim was handing money to the gun toting robber with his left hand he drew and fired with his right. The armed robber drops to the ground and his 2 accomplices run away. The armed robber was pronounced dead at the scene and the 2 other robbers are not yet in custody.

DGU #2  A Hayward Ca resident stopped a home invasion on Sunday afternoon as multiple invaders attempted to break into his home. The details are a little sketchy but it appears that the victim fatally shot one male invader and injured a female invader who was dropped off at a local hospital about 15 minutes after police arrived at the victims home to investigate. With 2 of their accomplices down the other invaders decided that this might have been a poor victim choice and fled.

DGU #3 This is an interesting one. A 19 year old male enters a home through the window of a 19 year old female.  An altercation happens and the female is punched in the face. Her mother hears screaming and grabs a revolver, The 19 year old male is shot and is recovering in a local hospital. The news story we have says the two 19 year olds did not know each other.

DGU Two women were targeted at a South Carolina ATM by three criminals.  The trio followed the two women, and drew a gun on them as they reached their home.  That is when one of the women drew her own firearm and shot one of the robbers.  The robbers fled, but two are already in police custody. http://www.wnct.com/story/24637170/new-details-shooting-investigation-in-spartanburg-county

We have the links to each of our news and defensive gun use articles at Polite Society Podcast.com if you want to share them with a friend.
Segment 5 Show close
Tips and tricks segment with Kenn Blanchard

Listener e-mail discussion
Email from Chris G
I started listening to the show back around December 2012, you guys always put out a great show. Sticks , man you will be missed by the audience of this show. I know you said you’re not going far I hope I’m reading into that correctly because like all the hosts that are currently on the show and those that have left you’re knowledgeable and fun to listen to. Keep up the great work ladies and gentlemen.

We lost Paul because he had to move his truck. The Polite Society download app is out on Amazon for Android and the I-phone app is in I-tunes.  They are located by our old name, Politcs and guns.  Hot links are in our show notes.

>We’re experimenting with the show all the time.  Please send us an e-mail to tell us what you like or dislike.  You can contact the show by e-mail.  Paul@politics and guns.com, Rachel, Rob, Susan, or Onair to reach all of us.  Call 605-215-1438 to hear your voice on the air!

Rob: That’s 605- 215- 1438

Roadgunner’s Mag 40 class in Conway, Arkansas at Shoot House USA is scheduled for May 15th thru 18th 2014 you can register here.

Also please check out the shooters club by Bob Mayne and Ben Branam.  For $75.00 a year, $6.25 a month, you get 24/7 access to some fantastic training and audio podcasts that you can’t get anywhere else. Your purchase helps support the Polite Society Podcast, and puts you in the running for Bob Mayne’s S&W Shield.

Listen to other podcasts on the Gun Rights Radio Network, the Crusader Podcast Network, and check out http://www.ahib.us/  That’s Almost Heaven Internet Broadcasting out of Bayard BAY-ARD, West Virginia.  They stream the Polite Society Podcast from 7 to 9 am weekdays!

Join the National Rifle Association, Second Amendment Foundation, Gun Owners of America and Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership.  Joining two makes you a hero.  Supporting all four makes you a super hero.  Not belonging to any of them means we won’t loan you any ammunition.

Join your local civil rights group like the New Jersey Second Amendment Society, Arizona Citizens Defense League, Connecticut Citizens Defense League, Florida Carry, Georgia Carry, Georgia Gun Owners, Illinois Carry, Michigan Gun Owners , Michigan Open Carry,

and Michigan Coalition for Responsible Gun Owners, Minnesota Gun Owners Civil Rights Alliance, Texas Firearms Freedom, Texas State Rifle Association. Tennessee Firearms Association and the West Virginia Citizens Defense League.

That wraps up another episode of the Polite Society Podcast.  Until the weekend show…
stay safe,
be aware,
and we’ll see you down the road.

Episode 210 – Bob Owens and Anthony Colandro

Seg 1

Catch up with each participant
Paul: We’re joined by Rachel Malone.
Rachel: Getting ready for 2A lobbying at the Texas State political conventions. Help set the tone at the primary rather than the general.
Rob: I remembered where I keep my guns, and put them on so I’d remember what it feels like. That is dry practice. Sort of.
Paul: Doing the firearms twostep as I drive from state to state. Leaving Illinois and heading to Georgia.
Tom: Bought a Ruger Mk I but have not shot it yet. I’m going to leave the show. I’ll tell you when I announce my new projects. I’m excited about the Polite Society meeting in two weeks. I’ll shoot either my Springfield XD or Baby Eagle. Both are 40 cal.
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Tom: This article on police no-knock raids is from the Washington Post which included videos of a raid that took place in Des Moines, Iowa.  The homeowner was accused of credit card fraud.  He was sitting in the bathroom when his door was broken in.  He drew his firearm, heard the police announce themselves, re-holstered his weapon and sat back down to wait for the police.
The homeowner says he didn’t hear the police announcement until after one officer had already tried to kick in the door. Had that officer been successful in entering the first time, there’s a good chance that the homeowner, the police officer, or both would be dead. The police department would then have argued that the homeowner should have known that the people crashing into his home were law enforcement. Excuse me?!

The police can not simultaneously argue that these violent entries are necessary to take suspects by surprise and also claim the surprised suspects should not react violently because they already know they are being raided police rather than criminals. That line of pure propaganda is exactly what the police are selling. When citizens are injured, that is the propaganda that most prosecutors and judges are buying.

Des Moines police said they “do not have a written policy governing how search warrants are executed.” The Washington Post said that’s inexcusable.

Rachel -One Texas grand jury isn’t buying the no-knock excuses any more.  The grand jury in Burleson County refused to issue an indictment for murder after a drug dealer shot and killed a deputy during a no-knock raid.  The defendant, Henry Goedrich Magee was indicted on drug charges.  Magee said he thought the deputy was burglarizing their home and that Magee and his pregnant girlfriend were being robbed.

As a purely practical matter, it appears that Magee was growing several marijuana plants in his backyard.  That evidence wasn’t going to fit down the toilet while the police are knocking on the front door and presenting a warrant.

Rob – I guess I could mail in this news article.  The US senate took a baby step towards freedom when they required the US post office to allow firearms in their parking lots.  There has never been a federal law preventing guns in post offices, but the US post office has established its own regulations denying you arms.. and they have more lawyers than we do.

Paul:  But not more lawyers than the US senate.

Paul: -This is a case of putting your hands and feet where your heart guides you. Guns for Everyone was founded in 2010 as a joke.. until lawmakers in the Colorado legislature decided to write so many anti-gun laws.  Then, Guns for Everyone started offering free firearms training.  Their free training includes free kids handgun safety classes, and some of the classes are taught BY youngsters.  “What better way for kids to learn than with the help of other kids. These classes are also supervised by an NRA Certified Instructor.”  The class outline is pretty serious.

  • Handgun Rules and Etiquette
  • Handgun Safety
  • Fundamentals of Shooting
  • The kids get to shoot simulated guns

Their website is Concealed Carry for Free.com

Rachel: – Another piece of good news from Colorado, a bill received bi-partisan approval for CCW permit renewals in the county where you live.  Before it was the county where the permit was issued, so licensees could have quite a drive if they moved across the state.

Tom: -Two good Samaritans in Florida were trying to do a kid a favor by offering him a ride.  They quickly found themselves the victims of an attempted armed robbery or carjacking.

From the back seat of the car, Adrian Mangual-Ayala put a gun to their heads and threatened to kill the driver and passenger if they didn’t give him money.  The driver stopped the car and gave Ayala his money.  That is when the passenger jumped in the backseat and disarmed Manguel-Ayala, beating him so badly that his eye swelled shut.  The two good samaritans then held the gunman until the police arrived.  Authorities arrested 16 year old Mangual-Ayala on two counts of robbery with a firearm, unlawful possession of a firearm as well as violation of probation.

It isn’t a DGU, but I wanted to share a story with a happy ending.  Next time, carry concealed.

Rob: – Here is another Florida story with a happy ending, and it IS gun related.  Less than a week after Florida Carry filed its lawsuit, Eastern Florida State College revised its regulations to allow firearms in private vehicles on campus.  Florida Carry won a similar suit last December against the University of North Florida.  The reason these schools settled so fast is that Florida state law grants financial penalties against public entities and individuals who violate the rights of gun and defensive weapon owners.  Thank you, Florida Legislature and keep it up Florida Carry.

Paul: – Dennis Baxley is a Republican state representative in Florida.  He introduced a bill to protect children from being expelled due to educators “zero tolerance” of anything shaped like a gun in schools.  The representative calls it the “Pop-Tart Bill” after students were suspended for eating a corner of a poptart.

The bill would prohibit schools from taking disciplinary action for a range of possible infringements including vocalizing gun sounds, using hands to simulate a weapon, possessing a toy firearm made of legos, possessing a toy firearm that is smaller than two inches in length, and possessing a food item that resembles a firearm in shape.  The bill has received the support of the Florida House education Subcommittee which includes several educators and at least one Democrat.

Rachel: -South Carolina Governor Nikki Haley said she is eager to sign a bill working its way through the legislature to allow licensed gun owners to carry in restaurants that serve alcohol, though they can not consume while carrying.  Restraunt owners have the right to prohibit firearms in their businesses, but Governor Haley said she’d allow guns in if she owned a bar.

I knew there was a reason I like South Carolina.  South Carolina listeners should make a few phone calls and get that bill on the Governor’s desk.

Tom: Darn it, now I have to choose between South Carolina and Florida.  Nicki Goser help get the laws changed in Tennessee.

Rob: Did you know that the records of Florida license holders are NOT open to the public?  Plus-one for Florida.

Rachel: What about Texas?

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Tom: Then how about New Mexico where a State Senate panel rejected a bill restricting firearms in the New Mexico Capitol. The Rules Committee voted 4-2 Wednesday against a measure that would have banned firearms, except by law enforcement officers, in the Senate chambers, galleries and committee rooms.

Rob: – Things aren’t so rosy in California.  U.S. District Judge Kimberly J. Mueller, an Obama appointed judge, will review California’s microstamping law as early as next week.  The state law demands civilian firearms must leave a unique mark on each shell casing.  Manufacturers say they can’t guarantee the microstamping, but the California Department of Justice and Attorney General Kamala Harris say the solution is to prohibit sales of all non-complying guns.  They state claims they didn’t outlaw the guns, they simply made requirements so no guns can be sold in the state.

There is stupid, and then there is California Stupid.. and I live there.

Paul: -This politician is telling the truth.  John Tkazyik, the mayor of Poughkeepsie, N.Y., said he quit the group Mayors Against Illegal Guns after he realized its objective was outright confiscation of firearms from law-abiding citizens.  “Under the guise of helping mayors facing a crime and drug epidemic, MAIG intends to promote confiscation of guns from law-abiding citizens,” Tkazyik wrote in a Wednesday column in the Poughkeepsie Journal.  Mayor Tkazyik is one of about 50 mayors who left Illegal Mayors Against Guns.

Rachel: -This came item came from listener David Cole.  It is hard enough to become a commercial pilot.  It is doubly difficult to earn the right to fly armed for the defense of the aircraft, passengers and crew.  The Armed Pilots Program is one of the most rigorous, stringent and exclusive programs to put firearms in the hands of civilians, but that is the model Joe Kalil selected when he wanted to bring armed self-defense to public and private schools.  The project is called P.O.S.T. for Protect Our Students and Teachers, and it is a layered defense against an active murderer on school grounds.    Experts on public violence have moved far beyond the model of huddle and pray, but some school administrators remain stuck in the past.  The basics of the POST program include; only accept volunteers from school staff, pass initial interviews, background checks, drug tests, a polygraph test, and applicants must possess a state license to carry concealed.  That is before the several day training course begins.

Here is the good part.  This a non-political grass roots program that says we should remove the school board members who want to leave our children defenseless.  The program is initially directed at Kentucky schools, but could grow across the country.  Interested listeners should check out postky.org

Rob: I spoke with Joe Kalil.  Liability is not really an issue.

Tom: Gun Quotes
“Though defensive violence will always be ‘a sad necessity’ in the eyes of men of principle, it would be still more unfortunate if wrongdoers should dominate just men.” written 1700 years ago by the theologian Saint Augustine (Au-GUS-tin) of Hippo

Rob: We have two interviews coming up.  The first is Bob Owens talking about the terrible politicization of Connecticut gun laws.  The second is Anthony Colandro running for the NRA board of directors.

Paul: Hang on everybody, we’ll be right back after this.
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Segment 3  Interview with Bob Owens who writes at Bearing Arms.com
Interview with Anthony Colandro who owns Gun For Hire Range in Woodland Park, New Jersey  and is running for the NRA board of directors.

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Segment 4 DGUs

Rob: DGU1- by an off duty officer.  Robert Lundy was at the wrong place at the wrong time.  He was at the local ford dealership in Taylor county Florida so his police car could be serviced.  A fifteen year employee of the dealership came in and started shooting people with a shotgun.  (Joe Biden, take note.)  Officer Lundy shot the madman within a minute and prevented a massacre.   Thank goodness there was a good man with a gun in the right place at the right time.

Rachel: DGU2- A DeKalb County, Georgia, woman came home early Tuesday and found two teenagers in her home.  Better late than never, she grabbed her gun.  One teen ran out the back door and the other tackled her to the ground. The woman fired several shots, but no one was injured.  , according to police. A neighbor’s security camera captured the teens, and the woman was able to lead police to the suspects.  DeKalb County police arrested a 16-year-old and a 17-year-old, whose names were not released.  “They were skipping school today,” Capt. Stephen Fore said.

Paul: You can share the show with a friend by sending them the link to our download page. You can also share any of our news or DGUs. We have the links to each article online at Polite Society Podcast.com
Segment 5 Show close
Tips and tricks segment from Kathy Jackson talking about cold weather carry.

Listener e-mail discussion
Paul: From Marc in Ohio
Guys,
I am a father of four girls with a baby on the way. I just listened to the Bold Departure Podcast episode with you guys as guests. Thank you guys for having a very frank discussion. Kids require parenting not legislation.
I’m going to expose my method of firearm instruction for my kids. My kids’ ages are 13, 11, 8 and 5. All of them shoot to some degree. The youngest doesn’t even aim but she enjoys some trigger time. They all shoot .22 pistols and rifles. My 13 year old started shooting the .40 caliber pistol last year. They all shoot the AR. I realize our vice president’s opinion of the AR is it’s difficult to shoot but my 5 year old does just fine. All my girls have their own safety glasses and hearing protection. None of them have ever been forced to shoot. When I announce I’m headed out to shoot Who ever speaks up gets to come. Sometimes all of them come sometimes only one will come. Occasionally they ask me to take them shooting.
Play guns have no rules at our house. They are toys and are used as such. Real guns have rules. My rule is the girls can handle any gun they want any time they want. The catch is mom or dad must make it safe first. Once in awhile one of the kids gets the itch to hold one of my EDC guns. They ask to hold it. I make it safe and hand it to them. I watch their muzzle discipline with amazement. They all understand the potential energy of firearms. They respect them and enjoy the shooting.
I was asked recently by my youngest to look at my Glock 22. I removed the mag and locked the slide back. I handed it to her. My 5 year old pointed the pistol at the ground, turned her body and raised the muzzle towards the field in back of the house. She makes some shooting noises. She will point the muzzle back at the floor and turn to hand it back to me. It’s amazing to see.
My kids see myself and their mother every day. There is no curiosity to be satisfied. They can touch any weapon they want any time it’s made safe. Just to make sure we don’t misjudge, all firearms are on our person or in the safe.

I have a great story to share. A police officer friend tells me about a ground hog in his back yard. He decided he needed to shoot this ground hog. He retrieved his service rifle from his cruiser. When he walked through his home carrying his M-16 his 10 year old daughter gasp in fear. She assumed terrible things were going to happen with daddy carrying that scary gun. In contrast, when I walk through my house carrying an AR I usually hear cheers and chants of, “Can I Come”. My kids know it’s time to go shooting!

Keep representing gun owners in a positive light.
Marc in Ohio.

Paul: The Polite Society download app is out on Amazon for Android and the I-phone app is in I-tunes.  They are located by our old name, Politcs and guns.  Hot links are in our show notes.

Rachel: You can contact the show by e-mail.  Paul@politics and guns.com, Sticks, Rob, Susan, or Onair to reach all of us.  Call 605-215-1438 to hear your voice on the air!

Tom: That’s 605- 215- 1438 and we sprinkled salt on it so the answering machine has more traction.

Tom: Roadgunner’s Mag 40 class in Conway, Arkansas at Shoot House USA is scheduled for May 15th thru 18th 2014 you can register here.

Rob: Also please check out Kathy Jackson’s Cornered Cat training. Her next class is at Nighthawk Custom Training Academy in early March.

Paul: Also please check out the shooters club by Bob Mayne and Ben Branam.  For $75.00 a year you get 24/7 access to some fantastic training and audio podcasts that you can’t get anywhere else.

Rachel: Listen to other podcasts on the Gun Rights Radio Network, the Crusader Podcast Network, and check out http://www.ahib.us/  That’s Almost Heaven Internet Broadcasting out of Bayard BAY-ARD, West Virginia.  They stream the Polite Society Podcast from 7 to 9 am weekdays!

Tom: Join the National Rifle Association, Second Amendment Foundation, Gun Owners of America and Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership.  Joining two makes you a hero.  Supporting all four makes you a super hero.  Not belonging to any of them means we won’t loan you any ammunition.

Rob: Join your local civil rights group like the New Jersey Second Amendment Society, Arizona Citizens Defense League,Colorado Second Amendment Association, Connecticut Citizens Defense League, Florida Carry, Georgia Carry, Georgia Gun Owners, Illinois Carry, Michigan Gun Owners , Michigan Open Carry,

Paul: and Michigan Coalition for Responsible Gun Owners, Minnesota Gun Owners Civil Rights Alliance, Texas Firearms Freedom,Texas State Rifle Association. Tennessee Firearms Association and the West Virginia Citizens Defense League.

Paul, That wraps up another episode of the Polite Society Podcast. Until the mid-week show…
Rob, stay safe,
Tom, be aware,
Rachel: and we’ll see you down the road.
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Episode 209 – NRA, Training, and ARs

This is our 1st attempt at recording with Google+ and YouTube. I want to thank everyone who has logged in to watch us live. If you are watching on on the live Google+ hangout on air you can interact with us by using the chat box on the hangout session.

I want to thank the guys over at the Bold Departure Podcast for asking us to be guests on their show. We had a GREAT time guesting on their show.

Also it looks like I am going to be a guest on Slam Fire Radio this week.
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-Governor Andrew Cuomo poured more gun regulations on honest New York gun owners with his so called SAFE Act. Cuomo didn’t expect that NRA membership would double in New York since the SAFE act passed a year ago. Cuomo didn’t expect 200 thousand dollars to be donated towards court challenges. In one year, the New York chapter of the NRA has grown to become the largest chapter in the US.
Thanks, Andy.

-A review committee impaneled after the bombing at the Boston marathon has some bizarre recommendations for firearms safety. They suggested that police be given the right to refuse a firearms purchase to anyone who was arrested, even if there was insufficient evidence for a prosecution or conviction. Say goodbye to innocent until proven guilty.

-At the other extreme, Law Professor and scholar Eugene Volokh is an articulate and well reasoned second amendment advocate. His blog, the Volokh Conspiracy, is now carried by the Washington Post. That is good news.

-There is a second amendment case before the US supreme court. In this case, Texas law enforcement officers conducted a no-knock raid and shot the homeowner. The homeowner’s son was suspected of using drugs. Law enforcement claims the NO-KNOCK raid was required because the homeowner has a concealed carry permit. The existing Texas policy implies that every gun owner deserves a no-knock entry simply because a gun is in the home. Exercising your second amendment rights to bear arms means you give up the right to be secure in your property. The son was not on the property at the time of the raid and law enforcement knew that, and the cops found a small amount of drugs.

-They hate us in Canada. Louis DiNatale didn’t intend to enter Canada when he and his wife wound up on a bridge from New York state to Ontario, Canada back in September having been misdirected by an unreliable GPS. DiNatale, whose request to turn around and cross back into the U.S. was denied, then made another mistake. When a border official asked whether he had any weapons, he said no. He had a 380 he’d left in his center console a week before and now faces a three year prison term if convicted in Canada. The trial is scheduled to start in June.

They’d like to hate us in Cook County, Illinois. Police across Illinois have objected to just 236 applications from people seeking to carry concealed weapons out of 33,631 submitted to the state police. That is .7 percent. The first licenses to carry concealed weapons could be issued by spring. Cook County Sheriff Tom Dart has assigned 25 employees to screen concealed carry applications filed by anyone who has lived in Cook County during the past decade. They scan for arrests for gun- or gang-related crimes or violent offenses, along with any history of domestic violence or mental illness.

Police say that nearly 1,100 guns were reported stolen in the city of Corpus Christi [TX] last year alone. 16-percent of the weapons were stolen from vehicles. Be a good ambassador as a gun owner and keep your weapons locked up when you are not at home.

Gun Quotes
They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.— Benjamin Franklin

Hang on everybody, we’ll be right back after this and close out the show.

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Jeff Knox interview about AR developments.

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Segment 4 DGUs

DGU- A Michigan mom was home with her two young children while her husband was deployed to Afghanistan. She heard scratching at her downstairs door just after midnight. She retrieved her gun and pointed it at the man wearing a ski mask and waving a machete and firearm outside her door. She also called police. The intruder ran to the back of her house and then tried those doors and windows. She did not have to discharge her weapon to keep the intruder outside. Police captured the 15 year old after a brief chase.

Yeah, that sounds crazy. I want to read the toxicology report.

Police say a home invasion suspect is on the loose after his partner in crime was shot by a quick-thinking homeowner in Oakland County [MI]. The situation unfolded around 9:30 p.m. The two men forced their way inside his home and demanded money. The man told police he agreed to give the intruders all of his money and took one of the suspects into his bedroom.. where the homeowner grabbed his firearm and shot at the suspect.

Segment 5 Show close
Kenn Blanchard tips and tricks segment HERE.

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Roadgunner’s Mag 40 class in Conway, Arkansas at Shoot House USA is scheduled for May 15th thru 18th 2014 you can register here.

Rob: Also please check out Kathy Jackson’s Cornered Cat training. Her next class is at Nighthawk Custom Training Academy in early March.

Paul: Also please check out the shooters club by Bob Mayne and Ben Branam. For $75.00 a year you get 24/7 access to some fantastic training and audio podcasts that you can’t get anywhere else.

Rob: Listen to other podcasts on the Gun Rights Radio Network, the Crusader Podcast Network, and check out http://www.ahib.us/ That’s Almost Heaven Internet Broadcasting out of Bayard BAY-ARD, West Virginia. They stream the Polite Society Podcast from 7 to 9 am weekdays!

Paul: Join the National Rifle Association, Second Amendment Foundation, Gun Owners of America and Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership. Joining two makes you a hero. Supporting all four makes you a super hero. Not belonging to any of them means we won’t loan you any ammunition.

Rob: Join your local civil rights group like the New Jersey Second Amendment Society, Arizona Citizens Defense League, Connecticut Citizens Defense League, Illinois Carry, Michigan Gun Owners , Michigan Open Carry, and Michigan Coalition for Responsible Gun Owners, Minnesota Gun Owners Civil Rights Alliance, Texas Firearms Freedom, Texas State Rifle Association. Tennessee Firearms Association and the West Virginia Citizens Defense League.

Paul, Thank you, Bold Departure and Modern Rifleman Radio. That wraps up another episode of the Polite Society Podcast. Until the weekend show…
Rob, stay safe,
Paul, be aware,
Rob, and we’ll see you down the road.
Outro and disclaimer

Episode 208 – with Ken Kowalski and Brian Bolivar

Brian: Everyone knows an armed society is a polite society. This is the Polite Society Podcast where we support and report on civilian self-defense, eh.

Paul: Welcome to The Polite Society Podcast recorded on Sunday, February second, 2014. I’m Paul Lathrop
Rob: I’m Rob Morse and we’ll bring you our usual news and DGUs, but we have guests in the house. They know their way around. Did you guys find what you need? Drinks are in the fridge.
Brian Bolivar: I’m Brian Bolivar from Modern Rifleman Radio.
Ken Kowalski: I’m Ken Kowalski from Modern Rifleman Radio, and we have a lot of good new on the firearms front.
Paul: So climb aboard
Rob: Stap in
Paul: And hang on! Episode 208 of the Polite Society Podcast starts right now.
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Seg 1
Catch up with each participant
Tom is away on urgent family business.
This is the 2 year anniversary of the show. Started Feb 3 2012.

Break
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-Here is some good news.  Castle Rock Colorado read its new rule allowing open carry of a firearm in city facilities including parks and recreation centers.  The rule was read a second time and approved by the city council on a 4 to 3 vote after several hours of debate.  Castle Rock joins a growing number of Colorado towns and local governments who allow open carry.  Jeff Meek listens to the podcast and was at the meeting.  Jeff posted his comments on our facebook page and his blog.

-Tennessee Senator Stacey Campfield proposed a bill to stop local government’s from creating more disarmed victim zones in “gun free” public parks.  The measure passed the Senate Judiciary Committee 6-2.  Under Campfield’s proposal, permit holders would be allowed to carry, unless there’s a school function in the park. Republican Governor Bill Haslam has said he’s opposed to the legislation.  Sounds like our listeners from Tennessee have some phone calls to make.

-We have similar news from Kansas.  The Saline County Commission approved a significant change in employment policies.  The commission allowed county employees to carry a concealed weapon at work. Employees must have a concealed-carry permit, as required by law, and keep their firearm on their person at all times. That means employees are prohibited from storing or leaving a firearm in off-body carry bags.  Employees must also submit a copy of their concealed carry permit to the Saline County Human Resources Division.  Give Saline County, Kansas a hand.

A bill introduced in the Nebraska legislature would allow trained teachers and staff to carry a gun in school.  The bill’s sponsor, State Senator Mark Christensen of Imperial said, “If we really care about the kids, don’t we want to have the maximum security for them?” Schools in the state’s rural areas can be 15 miles or more from the closest police department or sheriff’s office. “Do we want to wait 30-40 minutes for a response and leave our kids at risk?” he said.

This sounds similar to bills we reported on in Arizona and Colorado.  Nebraska listeners, call your legislators.

-US Senator. Rand Paul proposed a bill to again allow guns in post offices.  The initial reaction from Democrat Committee Chairman Thomas Carper from Delaware was critical.  We don’t know how the votes stack up in the committee.  Senator Paul plans to revise sections of the bill covering Postal Service facilities housed within other federal buildings. Generally speaking, the measure would allow individuals to carry guns in post offices when otherwise carrying the weapon would be in compliance with state and local regulations.

The US Post Office sometimes claims to almost be a private corporation and sometimes more like a government entity as the subject suits them.

-It’s that time of year.. the season when year-end statistics come out about the growth of concealed carry.  The number of concealed carry licenses in Michigan rose statewide by 35%.  An overwhelming majority are in West Michigan.  Kent, Ottawa, Muskegon, and Newaygo Counties saw anywhere from 30% to 65% jumps in pistol sales, registrations and concealed pistol license applications in just one year.  The statewide number of women with concealed carry permits in Michigan increased by 57% to 33,096.  Way to go Michigan!

-Also in Michigan, here is a big city police chief who defends self-defense.  We covered the story a month ago when Detroit Police Chief James Craig publicly supported concealed carry.  Last Thursday, Detroit resident Sandra Hines challenged Chief Craig’s position during a Detroit Board of Police Commissioners meeting.  Hines claimed that arming citizens could lead to vigilantism.

Here is part of Chief Craig’s responce: “I did, in fact, say that good Americans, good Detroiters, if responsible, could get Concealed Pistol Licenses .. I said that because of my experience in four cities, having seen good Americans and good Detroiters that have CCWs and what effect it has had on deterring violent crime..”

“Most telling, there was research done by felons who were incarcerated, and what they said is that they’re more fearful of armed citizens than they are of police officers..”

“I do not condone vigilantism. I don’t support individuals arming themselves and doing the work of police officers. Police officers are trained to enforce the law..  I do see that a concealed weapon is an opportunity for self-protection only; not to go out and enforce the law.”

After Thursday’s Board meeting, Police Commissioner Lisa Carter and her husband, Tyrone Carter – both former police officers – said they agreed with Chief Craig.  “There are a lot of seniors in Detroit who are victims.  It’s not vigilantism for people to protect themselves.  That’s all we’re talking about: The right for people to be able to protect themselves.”

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From the Good Cop files, Brevard County Florida Sheriff Wayne Ivey now offers a Self Defense Through Tactical Shooting and Decision Making class due to his county’s surge in gun owners.  “We’ve seen a huge increase in the applications for concealed weapons permits,” said Cpl. Thomas Gunter.  “If you are going to have a gun, we want you to know how to properly use it,” Sheriff Ivey said.  Hallelujah, this police officer gets it.

-Moving up the coast, here is more good news from Green County Virginia.  Sheriff Steve Smith offers training to thousands of citizens in his 60 firearms classes offered each year.  That helps explain why the number of permit applications increased to 660, double the number in 2012.  “We go over laws, the permit process, handling techniques, even proper selection, legal transport, what states they can legally enter once they have that permit,” said deputy Steve Keene.

I love it when a department gets it right.

-Some states say they can’t support a citizens right to self-defense because the paperwork is insurmountable.  For example, the number of Oklahoma handgun license applications increased from 40 thousand to 60 thousand last year.  In response, the Oklahoma State Bureau of Investigation announced an online application for handgun licensing and license renewals. Thank you for Oklahoma for stepping up and joining the modern online world.  I wish other states would follow your example.

-Representatives in the Iowa House granted preliminary approval to lower the minimum age that minors can use handguns under supervision.

This brings two things to mind.  First, a Department of Justice study back in the Clinton era showed that youngsters who were formally trained with firearms have a lower delinquency rate than other youngsters.  The second thing is that this training should be the prerogative of parents rather than legislators.  I know when, or if, my children are mature enough to train with firearms.

Rob: A friend sent in this second article about Iowa.  The group Iowa Gun Owners is raffling off an AR to raise funds and grow membership.  An anti-gun group got several Democrat Iowa lawmakers to condemn the raffle.  Iowa Gun Owners went on the offensive.  They posted the anti-gun article on social media and news outlets pointing out the anti-civil rights statements by Iowa politicians.  Instead of being shunned, membership and contributions to Iowa Gun Owners soared.

Way to go Iowa Gun Owners. And Mayor Bloomberg, I’ve got a feeling we’re not in California or Maryland any more.
I’d like this article even more if a listener from Iowa asked to have Iowa Gun Owners added to the list of state civil rights organizations.
Is that a hint?
I’d call it a plea.

Gun Quote
Rob- The Detroit Police Chief reminded me of this quotation from my friend John Longenecker, “Nothing puts the dignity in personal dignity (or the freedom in personal freedom) like the self in self-rule.”

Paul: That means we’re depending on our listeners to be great ambassadors for responsible self-defense. We’re going to go to break and then interview Ken and Brian from Modern Rifleman Radio. Hang on everybody. We’ll be right back.

Kathy Jackson quick tips.

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Segment 4 DGUs

DGU- Keith Dennis was walking to his home in Columbus Ohio late Wednesday night when two men came up behind him and demanded money.  They kept a knife to his back as they followed him home.  When they arrived, Dennis’s friend heard the two robbers, pulled his gun and chased the robbers from the home.  Police arrested the robbers a few hours later.

We could call this “knife beat unarmed man” and “gun beats knife.” Sounds like a loaded 45 beats Rock, Paper AND Scissors.

DGU- A 44-year-old Chicago man on crutches fatally shot an intruder who rushed him in his apartment.  The homeowner was awakened by his frightened daughter who heard noises coming from the back apartment.  The homeowner then got his gun when two intruders rushed him.  He fired once, killing a 31 year old intruder.  The second intruder fled.  Police found that the back door had been pried open with a shovel.

DGU- A Pensacola man answered the knock at his door at 2:30 in the afternoon.  That is when John Paul Phillips attempted to force his way inside.  The homeowner blocked the door with his body, and Phillips shot through the door.  The armed homeowner returned fire.  When they arrived, police found Phillips firearm laying on the sidewalk.  Phillips was taken to Sacred Heart Hospital for treatment of a shoulder wound and arrested on multiple charges including aggravated assault with a deadly weapon, shooting into a dwelling and using a firearm to commit a felony.

DGU-  A man wearing a dark-colored hooded sweatshirt, a mask, and white gloves presented a weapon and demanded cash at the small Delli Mart in northwest Roanoke, Virginia.  The store owner gave the man money, then the suspect demanded a box of cigarettes and grabbed a box of condoms.  The store owner grabbed his revolver and fired five times.  The thief was found by police in a nearby alley and taken to Carilion Roanoke Memorial Hospital.  He is charged with robbery and use of a firearm in the commission of a felony.  I noticed that the newspaper account already had a picture of the thief so I suspect he’s been photographed before.

Paul: The Politics and Guns Podcast download application is out on Amazon for Android and the I-phone app is in I-tunes.  The link is in our show notes.  Yes, they will get you the Polite Society Podcast.

From a listener that didn’t leave a name,  for the state level 2nd Amendment rights organization list, here in the state of West Virginia we are proud to have the West Virginia Citizens Defense League (WVCDL)
Webpage  http://wvcdl.org
Facebook  http://www.facebook.com/groups/WVCDL

Rob: We had a listener e-mail us.  He enjoys the show, and likes how the show is changing with time.  Hey, Paul?  He says that Sticks and I are a good addition and expects the show will continue to grow and change with time.
Paul:  Good job.  I’ll double your pay.
Rob: Thanks for your comments, Jeff Armstrong.

Paul: You can contact the show by e-mail.  Paul@politics and guns.com, Sticks, Rob, Susan, or Onair to reach all of us.  Call 605-215-1438 to hear your voice on the air!
Rob: That’s 605- 215- 1438 and Canadian operators are standing by.

Paul: Roadgunner’s Mag 40 class in Conway, Arkansas at Shoot House USA is scheduled for May 15th thru 18th 2014 you can register here.  Tommy Nelson, Glen Tate and Sticks will be there.

Rob: Also please check out Kathy Jackson’s Cornered Cat training. Her next class is at Nighthawk Custom Training Academy in Centerton AR, March 1st and 2nd..

Paul: Rob, do you have any new posts from your SlowFacts blog you want to mention?
Rob: I do.  I wrote a satire about a tweetfest between an anti-gun politician and an anti-gun activist.  It is called the Sneaky Talking Points About Gun Control.  They will rob us of our words before they try to steal our guns.

Rob: Also please check out the shooters club by Bob Mayne and Ben Branam.  For $75.00 a year you get 24/7 access to some fantastic training and audio podcasts that you can’t get anywhere else.

Listen to other podcasts on the Gun Rights Radio Network, the Crusader Podcast Network, and Please go over and check out http://www.ahib.us/ Almost Heaven Internet Broadcasting out of Bayard, West Virginia is running the Polite Society Podcast from 7 to 9 am weekdays!

Paul: Join the National Rifle Association, Second Amendment Foundation, Gun Owners of America and Jews for the Preservation of Firearms Ownership.  Joining two makes you a hero.  Supporting all four makes you a super hero.  Not belonging to any of them means we won’t loan you any ammo if you run out.

Rob: Join your local civil rights group like the New Jersey Second Amendment Society, Arizona Citizens Defense League,Connecticut Citizens Defense League, Illinois Carry, Michigan Gun Owners , Michigan Open Carry, and Michigan Coalition for Responsible Gun Owners, Minnesota Gun Owners Civil Rights Alliance, Texas Firearms Freedom,Texas State Rifle Association. Tennessee Firearms Association

Paul, That wraps up another episode of the Polite Society Podcast. Until the mid-week show…
Rob, stay safe,
Paul, be aware,
Rob, and we’ll see you down the road.