Paul: Hi and welcome to the Politics and Guns Podcast recorded on Sunday, the 29th of December, 2013. I’m Paul Lathrop
Tom: I’m Tom and on tonights show we interview Zeke and Lefthand from the Talking Lead Podcast
Rob: I’m Rob Morse and we’ll also have large news segment
Toby: I’m Toby. We also have many Defensive Gun Use Stories
Rob:So climb aboard
Tom: Strap in
Paul: And hang on, episode 194 of the Politics and Guns Podcast starts right now.
Show intro music.
Seg 1- Catch up
Toby: My dad came out of surgery. Thank you for your prayers. Melisa bought you a computer interface for his Chronograph and a 1911 blue gun for training. He also got the Sig Sauer 1911 chambered in 22 cal. It shoots well. Also a 22 conversion for his AR. My Desert Eagle might be coming back. It is chambered in 50 action express, so might convert to 44 magnum.
Rob: I took another family shooting out in the desert. It was my family plus a dad, his daughter aged 12, and his son age 11. I shot another IDPA match. IDPA looks like this if you’re really good. A friend received some threatening phone calls, so she came over for some discussion about self defense and how she could respond. Lights, locks and cameras first. Firearms second.
Tom: I did not get a handgun for Christmas, but I did get a 410/22 folding rifle. It is a backpack gun with a beautiful walnut stock. I received a GoPro camera and electronic hearing protection along with Massad Ayoob’s book, “the truth about self-protection”. Also received a cleverly built range bag/ back pack. I gave my mom a security camera and my dad a pistol. Check our facebook page for pictures of our gun gifts.
Paul: Spent Christmas on the road earning a bonus so we can go to SHOT show. Nothing earth shattering, getting ready for SHOT show, if it is possible I am even more excited about SHOT this year than last. In doing research for the show ran across a leak that the new Glock is supposedly a single stack .380 that is TINY! From the pics I have seen it is only just double the size of a Zippo lighter. I am going to withhold judgement until I can shoot the thing at SHOT show, but I am not thinking I am going to be impressed.
Wondering why we aren’t getting more calls to the voicemail line, that number is 605-215-1438. By the way the number is 605-215-1438. Did I mention that the number is 605-215-1438?
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Segment 2- NEWS
Rob – South Carolina Governor Nikki Haley received a 9mm handgun for Christmas, the Beretta Px4 Storm. This caused several of the anti-gun crowd to lose bladder and bowel control when they said online that they hopes Governor Haley uses the gun to shoot one of her family members. That passes for reasoned debate with gun haters.
Toby – A washed out Ohio lawmaker who voted against the human right of self-defense now wants to run for a seat on Ohio Supreme Court. Our listeners in Ohio should belong to the Buckeye Firearms Association and receive their e-mail updates.http://www.buckeyefirearms.org/
Paul – Musician Toby Keith banned guns at his restaurant in Woodbridge, Va. I’m sure that will play to some of the Washington DC bureaucrats living in northern Virginia, but it will probably keep some Virginia gun owners from entering his business. Please let us know if you’re in the area and chose to take your group to another place to eat because of Keith’s no-guns policy.
Tom – Concealed carry classes in Illinois have begun. The laws in Illinois are going to be extremely complicated to obey. For example, you can not carry at a large public gathering, but you could stand outside the crowd, or walk through an outdoor art exhibit as long as you did not stop. The litigation is only beginning.
Rob – When Federal land-use-fees stopped in Josephine County, Oregon, the sheriff’s office effectively closed. Citizens formed their own self-protection and courtesy call societies led by a retired law enforcement officer. One commenter said they like the idea since they know the citizens will follow the law.
Toby – A reminder that we have a legal system, not a justice system. A Pennsylvania state trooper was treated for depression seven years ago. The trooper’s doctor cleared him to return to work. Though he is allowed to carry a firearm on duty, the trooper is forbidden from carrying off duty, and he can’t own a firearm due to federal prohibitions due to his history of mental health treatment. The feds refuses to return his right of self-defense.
Paul – In still gun free Chicago, one person was shot dead and seven wounded on Christmas day. These events vary from murder to multiple drive by shootings. Another example that more gun laws don’t reduce crime.
Tom – Connecticut gun owners waited in line to register their guns and magazines as new laws take effect in 2014. Elections have consequences, and there are jobs in other states.
Rob – Also in Connecticut, Economist Mark Gius from Quinnipiac University published a new study titled ”An examination of the effects of concealed weapons laws and assault weapons bans on state-level murder rates”. The study determined the effect of state assault weapons bans and concealed weapons laws on the murder rates from 1980 to 2009. Restrictive states had higher gun-related murder rates than other states, and assault weapons bans were ineffective.
Toby – Our third story from Connecticut, gun owners in Bridgeport protested the lenient treatment given a local police officer. The officer shot himself in the leg while sitting at a local bagel shop. Reports say the gun was not his service weapon. Demonstrators say the officer should have been charged with unlawful discharge of a firearm and reckless endangerment. “Had that been me, my permit would have been revoked, my firearms would have been seized, and I would have been arrested on the spot.”
While I’m sorry the officer was injured, but there certainly appears to be two separate firearms laws for law enforcement and for civilians.
Paul – A bill filed and ready when the Missouri Senate returns to session would require parents with students in public schools to disclose if the have firearms in their home. This is an extension of the medical theory of gun violence which says we need to identify and quarantine gun owners. Fortunately, the same bill proposed by the same democrat Senator did not advance in prior years. Thank you to Greg from, Bremmerton for sending this link via email.
Tom – Also sent in from listener Greg in Bremmerton, AK 47 inventor Mikhail Kalashnikov dies aged 97. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-25497013
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Seg 3 Interview with Zeke and Lefthand from the Talking Lead Podcast
Hang on everybody, we’ll be right back after this and close out the show.
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Segment 4- DGUs and Show close
Tom – DGU1- A Liberty County [TX] man says he was forced to fatally shoot his 35-year-old son after his son turned from beating his own wife to attacking him. The shooting took place at the home of the father, 67-year-old Billy Wilkey, at 723 County Road 2061, near Hardin… Authorities say that Friday afternoon, Wilkey’s son, Flint and his wife got into an argument at their home. To avoid further trouble, the wife went to the home of her father-in-law. The younger Wilkey followed. They got into another argument. Flint Wilkey left and then came back again. This time, the altercation got physical. According to witnesses, Flint hit his wife with his fist and pulled her hair. He pulled his wife outside and tried to get her into his truck. Billy Wilkey tried to stop his son from beating his wife, when he says the younger Flint turned on him. The elder Wilkey fired one shot from a 9mm handgun, which struck his son.
Rob- DGU 2- According to the Marshall County Alabama Sheriff’s Office, a homeowner caught two men stealing scrap metal from his property Friday afternoon and confronted them with his rifle. Deputies said Aaron Michael Lawson, 23, of Gurley, approached the homeowner and said he would kill him. The homeowner shot Lawson once in the groin, and deputies said Lawson and the other suspect left the scene. Lawson was arrested after having surgery at Huntsville Hospital. Deputies said they arrested the other suspect, Paul Curtis Reed, 25, of Gurley a short time after the incident
Paul- DGU 3 – Apparently, a 39 year old man forced his way at gunpoint into a home off Wren Road in Anderson county, South Carolina. The assailant put the female homeowner in a choke hold. The 78 year old male homeowner shot the suspect in the chest and the homeowner was shot in the stomach. The suspect fled, but later died in at the Greenville hospital. The homeowner is in stable condition. A background check of the suspect revealed a criminal record including violent crimes and drugs, and that the suspect was released from prison earlier this year.
Tom- DGU 4 – An Akron man whom police said was held at gunpoint until officers arrived to make an arrest has been charged with burglary. Monte T. Harris, 24, of Bettie Street, was booked into the Summit County [OH] Jail. He was scheduled for an initial appearance Monday in Akron Municipal Court. Police said two residents were awakened about 3 a.m. Sunday when a man climbed through the kitchen window of their Akron home. The male resident then fired a shot at the suspect inside the house. The suspect ran down into the basement, where the resident held him at gunpoint until Akron police responded.
Listener e-mail discussion
Rob- Email from Marc (the winner of the 299 Days book giveaway with Prepper Press)
I won and I’m jumping for joy. I’ve truly enjoyed the series. I am currently reading book 5. I’ve also enjoyed all the podcasts Glen has been on recently. Thanks for the major win. Last time I won I paid it forward. This time I’m going to enjoy the prize. Thanks for a great show. Keep representing Americans as better gun owners than Canadians, I kid of course.
PS, Bolivar can kiss my win! Lol
Paul- Facebook message from Dan
Dan here from NJ Concealment furniture. Just wanted to let you know at the Oaks gun show we had a great response to our products and we will we there again in Feb. Thanks for you help getting the business out there.
Tom – Another e-mail from Marc
It seems a customer dropped his firearm at a North Carolina restaurant. It went off when it hit the floor. The pocket pistol doesn’t appear to be in any holster. If it was in a holster, it wasn’t a good one. Clearly the owner was negligent in his gun handling. Was this weapon faulty? I don’t know. Was there a safety on the weapon? Was a safety engaged? Did the gun break? These are all good questions but preventable with a quality holster. This black eye falls squarely on the imbecile gun owner and unfortunately on the rest of us.
KERNERSVILLE, N.C. — Kernersville Police say they are investigating after a gun discharged inside a restaurant Friday afternoon. Officers said they responded to Palenque Mexican Restaurant on North Main Street at 1:18 p.m. Video from the restaurant showed a man attempting to pay at the register when he dropped a handgun and it discharged. Police told WFMY News 2 the round from the gun struck the counter at the register, then a half wall before entering the ceiling. No one was injured during the incident. The case is still under investigation and anyone with information is asked to contact Kernersville Police December 28th 2013.
Marc From Ohio
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Paul: Rob, do you have any new articles you want to mention?
Rob: I do. I posted an article about our confusion over defensive gun uses. The article asks where defensive gun use starts. There is a difference between defensive display where you’d be arrested if the display was unwarranted, and where criminal thinks you might have a weapon and changes his mind. I received over 170 comments, but I also had my first troll.
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Tom: Join your local civil rights group like New Jersey Second Amendment Society, Arizona Citizens Defense League,Michigan Gun Owners , Michigan Open Carry, and Michigan Coalition for Responsible Gun Owners, Minnesota Gun Owners Civil Rights Alliance, Texas Firearms Freedom,Texas State Rifle Association. Tennessee Firearms Association
Paul, That wraps up another episode of Politics and Guns. Until the mid-week show…
Rob, stay safe,
Tom, be aware,
Paul, and we’ll see you down the road.