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Open: Welcome to the Politics and Guns Podcast recorded on Sunday, 17 November, 2013. I’m Paul Lathrop
Sticks: I’m Sticks and on todays show we have an interview with Derrick of Prepper Press
Rob: I’m Rob Morse and we’ll also have a news segment and several defensive guns use stories,, so climb aboard
Sticks: Strap in
Paul: And hang on, episode 181 of the Politics and Guns Podcast starts right now.
Show read and intro music.
Catch up with each participant and humorously ridicule the no-shows.
Tom changes his name. Host asks for comments before moving on. Tom scheduled a class at Rangemasters in Memphis in February. (Cathy Jackson, Tom Givins, John Farnam, John Hodaway)
Rob: political meetings, but no firearms.
Shoutout to Gun UP. They have 22 cal ammunition in stock.
Toby is doing “field work” at a gun show.
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Paul:I want to talk about Dick…. Metcalf. Yes he has a first amendment right, but it isn’t better than mine, or anyone elses. Dick was the technical editor at “Guns and Ammo” magazine. He posted a discussion asking how the right of self-defense should be limited. Dick wanted to find the line between regulation and infringement. That sounded too much like “reasonable common sense restrictions to promote gun safety” to the readers of Guns and Ammo. Bob Mayne podcasts at Hand Gun World, but funds the show with his own money. Bob can say anything he wants. So can Dick Metcalf, but we don’t have to pay for it.
Rob: Another reason to leave California- The California Supreme Court refused to hear CalGun’s challenge to a county regulation which banned firearms in parks.. even for those licensed to carry a firearm. What can I say.
Rob: A slight ray of hope for the left coast- California Gun Control Advocate Senator Ronald S. Calderon was stripped of committee assignments on Tuesday. Calderon is under federal investigation for taking 88 thousand dollars in bribes. The Senator is a Democrat from Montebello and also lost a leadership post with the Legislature’s Latino Caucus. Claderon is against civilian self-defense and supported several of last years the anti-gun bills.
Tom: Yet we have good news from North Carolina- Concealed handguns will now be allowed on playgrounds in Asheville. At Tuesday night’s city council meeting, members voted to amend an ordinance that prohibits concealed and carry permit holders from bringing their firearms to all city parks. Members say they had to go against their beliefs on the issue because they had to comply with state legislation passed earlier this year. The ordinance now allows permit holders to have their guns on playgrounds, green-ways, bike trails and athletic fields that do not have a scheduled event taking place. Good work by the pro-gun group Grass Roots North Carolina.
Rob: Where is a woman likely to be attacked? Yeah, when she runs in a park!
Tom: More NC news- A controversial gun law took effect on October 1. It lets people with concealed permits carry their handgun into bars and restaurants that serve alcohol…as long as they don’t drink any. Owners of restaurants and bars that don’t want guns in their business must post a sign. And those who have posted signs have drawn the ire of the gun-rights group Grass Roots North Carolina. GRNC is listing on its website restaurants that post these no guns signs. The group doesn’t want gun owners to patronize these restaurants. But don’t call it a boycott, says GRNC president Paul Valone…
Nicki Goeser is a local victim of a homicide in a bar. Her book is How Gun Control Helped a Stalker Murder my Husband
Paul:Class 3 guns may be coming to MI
The Michigan Senate Judiciary Committee on Tuesday unanimously approved legislation that would lift the state’s ban on short-barreled shotguns and rifles. Senate Bill 610 would align Michigan with more than 40 other states that allow residents to own such guns if they meet federal requirements.
Paul :From our friends over at JPFO, MAIG loses another member!
Oro Valley Mayor Satish Hiremath resigned from an organization of mayors who oppose illegal firearms under pressure from a gun-ownership-rights group that called for him to make the move. Hiremath joined Mayors Against Illegal Guns (MAIG), a group with 1,000 mayors in 46 states, more than a year ago. He announced Nov. 6 in an email to the Star that he had resigned.
“I am aware of the efforts of members of Arizona’s criminal justice community and our state Legislature, and I support their direction. It is apparent that MAIG differs from the focus of our state leaders, which is consistent with my views,” Hiremath wrote in the email.
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Tom: Thank you Nighthawk custom Solutions for supporting Appleseed events on their range.
Prepper press interview part 1
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Rob: DGU1- A pizza delivery driver drew his gun to stop an armed robbery. Police arrested three suspects accused of robbing a pizza delivery driver of chicken wings Tuesday night in Donora [PA]. According to police, the incident was reported just before 10 p.m. on Short Street. Hal Perry, who works for Italian Pizza Village in Belle Vernon, told police he was approached by three men who demanded money… Perry told detectives that one of the men searched his pants pockets and one searched the vehicle for money. He said the men took off with the chicken wings, valued at almost $18, when he pulled out a gun. “I didn’t know if (the one searching me) had a knife so I took a couple steps back, bent over and drew my weapon. As soon as they saw that, they took off running. As they left they threw something. It turned out to be a pellet gun.
Tom: DGU2- Police say a woman in her 60s shot and killed a man in his 20s early Thursday morning. Homicide detectives are still investigating a shooting death at a home in the city’s east side near East 68th Street and The Paseo [Kansas City MO]… According to police, a woman in her 60s answered a knock at her door and a man who she didn’t know asked for someone the woman had never heard of. When she told him he had the wrong house, the man reportedly forced his way inside. Once inside, the woman told police the man sexually assaulted her. After the attack, police said the woman claimed the man started to leave the room and she was able to get a hold of a gun she had and shoot the intruder. Police released the woman while they continue to investigate. It will be up to prosecutors to decide if she will face charges.
Paul: DGU #3- Relatives of an armed robber are upset with the good samaritan who stopped a robbery in progress. Here is some background. Adric White was busy robbing a Family Dollar Store in Mobile Alabama. White ordered the store clerk to kneen on the ground while White pointed his gun at the store clerk’s head. That is when a good samaritan told White not to move, but the robber turned and pointed his firearm at the good samaritan. That was when the samaritan shot White. Mobile Police also arrested 19-year-old Tavoris Moss as an accomplice to the robbery.
White’s family says the samaritan should have walked away since the robbery didn’t concern him. White was out on bond for a previous armed robbery of the Oyster House restaurant. The mother of the clerk held at gunpoint in the Oyster House robbery said this time White got what he deserved. The samaritan had his concealed carry permit for the last four years.
Paul:Listener e-mail discussion
Not guns but you may find this worth covering, what’s next????
Greg, Bummerton (Bremerton)
In February, the Seattle Police Department announced it bought what’s called a “mesh network,” that will be used as a dedicated wireless network for emergency responders. What SPD did not say is that the network is capable of tracking anyone with a device that has a Wi-Fi connection.
“They now own a piece of equipment that has tracking capabilities so we think that they should be going to City Council and presenting a protocol for the whole network that says they won’t be using it for surveillance purposes,” said Jamela Debelak of the American Civil Liberties Union.
A spokesperson for Seattle Police said the network is not being used right now. A draft policy is being reviewed by the city attorney’s office and will eventually go before the City Council.
At this point I would like to run the audio that Greg sent in a few weeks ago that should have aired then.
Rob: From Tenexx (yes THAT tenexx as in ten in the X-ring) for those that listen to Slam fire radio)
Gentlemen; while the M1 Garand, the Springfield M1A and AR10 platforms
are all excellent examples of Main Battle Rifles that could be used for
Appleseed Rifle Markmanship, I was surprised to hear that no one mention
the FN FAL.
Before I escaped to Canada, I owned a FAL for all of 6 months before it
was confiscated along with all other centerfire rifles in Britain at
that time. It is a rifle that I would dearly love to own again but it is
on the prohibited list here in Canada.
Peter AKA Tenexx on Slamfire Radio,
Tom:Check out a 6.5 Grendel ar15. Flat shooting out to 1000 yards. Light recoiling. Plus it’s still an ar15.
Tom: From Jessy in South Dakota,
Sioux Falls school board votes unanimously to NOT allow the pledge of allegiance in high schools. http://www.keloland.com/newsdetail.cfm/pledge-of-allegiance-voted-down-by-sf-school-board/?id=155989
Rob: From Bryan Bolivar Facebook messages with the show
Remind listeners that is they sent in an email for suck up for swag that they need to email their mailing address to email@example.com to get the swag, and Bryan’s dog poo is on it’s way!
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Rob, do you have any new posts from your SlowFacts blog you want to mention?
Rob: Our listeners inspired my article- “The Larger the Citizen, the Smaller the State” Every time we support a local charity, the state gets smaller. When we home school or support a private school, the state is smaller. When we defend ourselves and our families, the state is smaller. Sticks, when you support your local rescue association, the state is smaller. The small things you do add up. Thank you.
The counterexample is that Oakland California increased their gun regulations, and armed robberies increased 24 percent from last year. Even TV news crews bring their own armed security when they go on the bay area stories. I doubt the bay area citizens are smart enough to make the connection.
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Paul, That wraps up another episode of Politics and Guns. Until the mid-week show…
Rob, stay safe,
Tom, be aware,
Paul, and we’ll see you down the road.
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